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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Sep 4th 2011 at 7:44:08 PM

Not only is the name dependent on knowing the work, the word "Shrike" is also used in Hyperion, making for further confusion.

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SakurazakiSetsuna Together Forever... Since: Jun, 2010
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#2: Sep 4th 2011 at 7:47:05 PM

I know the reference, but yeah, thats a terrible name.

I really don't think we should have a trope that requires people to have watched Victory Gundam to understand it.

Thats just cruel!

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#3: Sep 4th 2011 at 7:51:50 PM

A read the description, and I STILL don't get what this is supposed to be.

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#4: Sep 4th 2011 at 7:53:12 PM

Band of female Mauve Shirts who get killed off over the course of the series.

edited 4th Sep '11 7:53:26 PM by SakurazakiSetsuna

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#5: Sep 4th 2011 at 8:26:54 PM

It's not entirely dependant on that. I mean Shrike Team is pretty obviously related to Strike Team, and then the shrike is also known as the butcher bird, which relates to "killed off, usually brutally." There's nothing to hint at the female aspect, though.

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#6: Sep 4th 2011 at 8:29:11 PM

Woah meaningful name I never knew they had... damn cool

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#7: Sep 4th 2011 at 8:33:28 PM

Yeah its a terrible name. +1 for re-name.

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#8: Sep 4th 2011 at 8:55:33 PM

This is a highly opaque name, and I would support renaming it, but I don't have a clue as to what.

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#9: Sep 4th 2011 at 9:05:04 PM

What? Victory Gundam is the Trope Namer? well damn... Yeah that needs a rename.

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#10: Sep 4th 2011 at 9:13:05 PM

[up] Yeah its the least popular Gundam and a trope namer.

The meaningful name makes it rather confusing name too Shrike is the butcherbird for its prey because of the brutality... However the trope is the team gets butchered brutally. (and I mean really bad) that's the only reason for these girls stay long enough to make you care for them then brutal decapitation or such.

edited 4th Sep '11 9:22:55 PM by Raso

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#11: Sep 4th 2011 at 9:28:58 PM

I've heard "shrike" as a derogatory term for a female warrior before, although it may have just been to describe a particular style of combat (related to how the bird spears prey). Couldn't say where, though.

That said, nothing about it would lead me to think that this is a team-based version of Sacrificial Action Girl - for that matter, is this really all that distinct from that trope so as to merit its own page? The only difference seems to be in numbers.

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#12: Sep 4th 2011 at 9:42:14 PM

Amazons In Mauve?

Yeah, though, that's a terrible name. I don't know the reference, and wouldn't have known the trope at all without reading it...

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#13: Sep 4th 2011 at 9:45:03 PM

I also have a hard time seeing how this

Band of female Mauve Shirts who get killed off over the course of the series.

is a trope. There's only like five actual works in the Related pages, and some of the examples on the page have me raising a skeptical eyebrow.

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#14: Sep 4th 2011 at 9:45:23 PM

Mauve Shirt has a chance to live... these girls there is no way they are getting out alive.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Sep 4th 2011 at 10:12:11 PM

Well why limit it to females? It could be a team that acts as a Sacrificial Lamb or Sacrificial Lion.

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#17: Sep 4th 2011 at 10:16:26 PM

...don't we have a trope for that to the effect of The Cavalry Lost or something...?

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#18: Sep 4th 2011 at 10:19:07 PM

[up][up][up] I don't know I can think of at least five off the top of my head (not looking at the page) mostly from Sunrise works though.

[up]The Cavalry has nothing to do with this trope.

edited 4th Sep '11 10:22:03 PM by Raso

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#19: Sep 4th 2011 at 10:22:28 PM

Well, I was just thinking "strong group that shows up and then loses." I don't see why we should make the distinction from Sacrificial Lion just for it being a group, though...

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#20: Sep 4th 2011 at 11:43:57 PM

I swear, we've had this TRS before. Anyway, I don't like the title, and it sounds like a poorly built trope.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Sep 4th 2011 at 11:53:51 PM

[up]I made an old thread for this that just got lost in an archive purge.

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#22: Sep 5th 2011 at 1:43:31 AM

I agree that this is too rare to trope. Making it non-gender specific might be worthwhile.

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#23: Sep 5th 2011 at 7:40:30 AM

Sacrificial Amazons?

I dunno, there seems to be a fair number of examples. And considering that Men Are the Expendable Gender, a group of female combatants introduced to be killed off strikes me as very tropable.

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#24: Sep 5th 2011 at 11:52:12 AM

[up]That makes sense.

On the other hand, the current name makes it sound like they're the butchers, not the butchees.

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#25: Sep 5th 2011 at 11:54:36 AM

[up] Precisely. The shrike is a bird that butchers insects, not a bird that gets butchered by someone.

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