I know the reference, but yeah, thats a terrible name.
I really don't think we should have a trope that requires people to have watched Victory Gundam to understand it.
Thats just cruel!
A read the description, and I STILL don't get what this is supposed to be.
Get a slant at this glossary of Pulp Detective terms. It rates. Pipe that?Band of female Mauve Shirts who get killed off over the course of the series.
edited 4th Sep '11 7:53:26 PM by SakurazakiSetsuna
It's not entirely dependant on that. I mean Shrike Team is pretty obviously related to Strike Team, and then the shrike is also known as the butcher bird, which relates to "killed off, usually brutally." There's nothing to hint at the female aspect, though.
Woah meaningful name I never knew they had... damn
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Yeah its a terrible name. +1 for re-name.
"You want to see how a human dies? At ramming speed." - Emily Wong.This is a highly opaque name, and I would support renaming it, but I don't have a clue as to what.
What? Victory Gundam is the Trope Namer? well damn... Yeah that needs a rename.
Yeah its the least popular Gundam and a trope namer.
The meaningful name makes it rather confusing name too Shrike is the butcherbird for its prey because of the brutality... However the trope is the team gets butchered brutally. (and I mean really bad) that's the only reason for these girls stay long enough to make you care for them then brutal decapitation or such.
edited 4th Sep '11 9:22:55 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!I've heard "shrike" as a derogatory term for a female warrior before, although it may have just been to describe a particular style of combat (related to how the bird spears prey). Couldn't say where, though.
That said, nothing about it would lead me to think that this is a team-based version of Sacrificial Action Girl - for that matter, is this really all that distinct from that trope so as to merit its own page? The only difference seems to be in numbers.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.Yeah, though, that's a terrible name. I don't know the reference, and wouldn't have known the trope at all without reading it...
I am now known as Flyboy.I also have a hard time seeing how this
is a trope. There's only like five actual works in the Related pages, and some of the examples on the page have me raising a skeptical eyebrow.
Mauve Shirt has a chance to live... these girls there is no way they are getting out alive.
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
I agree, its Too Rare To Trope
Well why limit it to females? It could be a team that acts as a Sacrificial Lamb or Sacrificial Lion.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid....don't we have a trope for that to the effect of The Cavalry Lost or something...?
I am now known as Flyboy.I don't know I can think of at least five off the top of my head (not looking at the page) mostly from Sunrise works though.
The Cavalry has nothing to do with this trope.
edited 4th Sep '11 10:22:03 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Well, I was just thinking "strong group that shows up and then loses." I don't see why we should make the distinction from Sacrificial Lion just for it being a group, though...
I am now known as Flyboy.I swear, we've had this TRS before. Anyway, I don't like the title, and it sounds like a poorly built trope.
Fight smart, not fair.I made an old thread for this that just got lost in an archive purge.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.I agree that this is too rare to trope. Making it non-gender specific might be worthwhile.
I dunno, there seems to be a fair number of examples. And considering that Men Are the Expendable Gender, a group of female combatants introduced to be killed off strikes me as very tropable.
That makes sense.
On the other hand, the current name makes it sound like they're the butchers, not the butchees.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.Precisely. The shrike is a bird that butchers insects, not a bird that gets butchered by someone.
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What would be the best way to fix the page?
Not only is the name dependent on knowing the work, the word "Shrike" is also used in Hyperion, making for further confusion.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.