@Maxima: my point is. to me. Freedom died the second we reacted to the 9/11 incident by passing laws that traded freedom for "safety" like the Patriot Act.
In short, the terrorists won to me because they turned america into a far more openly hateful place.
Ah. Carry on then.
edited 12th Sep '12 12:36:21 PM by Midgetsnowman
I wasn't clear,; I am in complete agreement with you. I meant that we're on guard against the terrorists, and yet it was those who used that attack to control us through fear and paranoia that are the true enemy.
edited 12th Sep '12 12:07:17 PM by TheStarshipMaxima
It was an honorThe terrorists also succeeded in their goal of goading us into taking drastic actions that made a lot of people flock to their banner.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I was in high school, I think you all know what happened a few years later.
Was in tenth grade. I remember in first period biology someone came into the classroom and told the teacher something like "someone flew a plane into the WTC" but didn't think much of it at the moment. Come second period theatre, someone's set up the big-screen TV on stage and we're all watching the second plane hit and the towers collapse live. One girl in the class went around hugging everyone and saying "I love you if we die."
Somehow you know that the time is right.I was 6. they didn't put it on the tvs at school, and they didnt even tell us what was happening, but almost everyone's parents came and picked them up. my dad came home from work to get me, that NEVER happens. Then I remember there were sirens EVERYWHERE. it wasnt even like they were in one direction and a few, there were ambulance fire department and police sirens going nuts. once I was home, we watched what happened from there. I dont remember seeing them fall or get hit, the sirens and school were the main thing.
My dad did HV/AC, but knew metal working type stuff and the company he worked for did a lot of that kind of thing, and I remember he called up his boss the next day and forced him to let him and the other guys take off work and takee the trucks to New York to help out. by that point they were'nt letting anyone else go in to help, besides the guys that were already there though, and that really bothered him.
I'm baaaaaaackI was 6 at the time. I was having a bad night's sleep that night (I live in Australia), so I woke up and went into the family room and sat next to my mum on the couch, who was folding laundry and watching The West Wing at the time.
Then the program suddenly shifted to a breaking news story. And they played the foootage.
I remember screaming, and I remember my mom yelling "OH MY GOD!". Then the show continued. Of course, we were shocked, and mum was chanting "That can't be real", "That can't be happening..."
Then it cut back to the news program were it showed the footage of the second tower going down. I think we woke up the rest of the house with the following "OH MY GOD!"
I'll never forget that night. Not until I die.
I'm having to learn to pay the price
I was too young to understand at the time. I learned about it later, though, and I can understand why it was so shocking.
edited 12th Sep '12 11:40:39 AM by RocketDude
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