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pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Aug 31st 2011 at 11:58:12 AM

Found this on un-typed pages.

This has only two sentences for the description, and only Five examples. There seems to be no trace of this on Ykttw. The Page history shows archos created the page at 5 o'clock this Morning.

Should we Send this to ykttw, or just cut it entirely?

edited 31st Aug '11 11:59:22 AM by pokedude10

CrypticMirror Cryptic Mirror from Scotland Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:05:36 PM

I'd say cut it, apart from anything else it just duplicates The Gadfly.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:06:55 PM

Yeah, that's no good. Let's merge it.

edited 31st Aug '11 12:07:23 PM by Spark9

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#4: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:08:20 PM

The last thing we need is another -dere snowclone.

I didn't write any of that.
pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
#5: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:11:38 PM

I Added it to the cutlist.

MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#6: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:22:29 PM

Looking at this again, I'm not so sure it's a duplicate of The Gadfly. As currently written, a Gadfly is someone who irritates others because they think it serves some larger purpose, while this trope seems to be someone who irritates others as a way of showing affection. So, is it worth splitting off from Tsundere or Slap-Slap-Kiss?

edited 31st Aug '11 12:22:42 PM by MetaFour

I didn't write any of that.
Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#7: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:25:57 PM

Someone who trolls because she cares for her targets isnt exactly a dere. (If you stretched it I could see Mai from Nichijou being a dere with her rare moments of not trolling and showing she has a heart to Yukko before a large troll happens after.) I would almost call them Lovable Prankster I guess.

edited 31st Aug '11 12:31:37 PM by Raso

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#8: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:27:22 PM

Just cut it. If it's a valid trope it can be put through YKTTW. As it stands, it's not a trope, and it's a pointless neologism in the form of a naming convention we're trying to clean up

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#9: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:29:53 PM

Yeah, this has nothing to do with the other -deres. At all. That's the real problem with snowclones; people make up new ones without understanding the reasoning behind them.

MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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