Danny Phantom

For a moment, when I saw this thread bumped, I thought it was getting a reboot or a continuation.

Phew.

Not even nearly.

Several years ago, this show was on the rotation for all the cartoons I obsessed over. After fading off the radar for a while, I'm finally watching the show from start to finish, in order, for the first time! Also the first time since I've learned to view things critically and not just with blind seven-year-old adoration. I'm on that two-parter, Reign Storm.

I love the characters (especially Danny Phantom), the powers, the creativity. My two favorite villains are Freakshow and Desiree; Spectra is VERY close behind. I'm a little scared to get to season 3, where there's that quality drop I've heard about, but how bad can it be? Heheh...heh...ahhhh...

All in all, as good as it ever was.

https://twitter.com/realhartman/status/613389897710202880 A Danny Phantom reboot could be happening

It would probably go down the same depressingly frustrating path of Korra, since Danny is a lot more action-oriented than most of the shows airing.

Korra's still on, isn't it?

Korra wrapped up its series finale a while ago.

I meant, like, it still has reruns, right?

I don't think so. Nick I know doesn't and if it's on Nicktoons Network I wouldn't know since that channel's been dominated by TMNT 2012.

Neither one reruns the show. If a new series should be made, make sure to start off from where it left off: The world knows Danny's alter ego, he and Sam are now in a relationship, and all the ghosts are on equal terms with Fenton. He should be heading to college in the beginning, along with Jazz and Tucker. I'm not too sure about Sam joining. She never really seemed to be that focused on a future in college but it's not ruled out. it would just be a great plot to work on Danny's feelings for someone he really loves and where his limit lies. Oh, and introduce a new female lead who is strictly friendzone only(at least not with Tuck.)

There would also need to be a greater threat than the last one.(Ghost meteor? Fuckin' really?) Maybe do a semi-similar plot to Kekkai Sensen or Ugly Americans, and now that ghosts are able to coexist with mankind, Danny is just around to keep it all in order. But what if there is a group of ghost-hunting extremists who want to annihilate all the ghosts, while a rival group of ghosts plot to take over the planet? This could put Danny in a tight spot as this will make the public see him as a traitor on either side if he retaliates.

That's just my idea.

edited 14th Aug '15 11:31:39 AM by NegaKingKix

Is it bad that the only character in the entire show that never really sat well with me was Sam?

That would depend on why you didn't like her. I did think she was annoying and preachy from time to time.

That's pretty much the reason why I didn't like her. She also could be a massive hypocrite or really insenstive at times....

Let me guess - you mean like spying on Danny's date vs Danny spying on her date?

Or was it when she wanted Danny to abuse his powers to spook some people away from some truck that was bad to environment at beginning of that Desiree episode?

Yup, she is very quick to call him out for it when he does it though (Despite that he had a good reason to suspect that one random guy that she dated was not who he played himself to be). The abuse of powers thing never really rubbed me the right way either.

That he was right about Gregor being a liar was a coincidence; his suspicions were fueled by jealousy and nothing more.

As for the abuse of power, yeah, it's a bit hypocritical for her to ask him to do that when she was always telling him not to do that, but at least she had a goodish cause instead of the stupid things he usually wanted to do. Spying on the girls' locker room, is a good example.

Honestly, she was one of the most inconsistently written characters in the show. I'm not sure they really knewant what to do with her beyond "she is friend/love interest". She never really had any character development in the show—in fact, she's the only major character in the show I can't remember having any development. Tucker would've suffered the same problem if he wasn't pigeonholed into the comic relief sidekick role.

For the record, my favorite character in that show was Jazz. She had the most major development and her relationship with Danny was possibly the most interesting element in the show, especially before she officially joined his team.

edited 14th Aug '15 3:47:38 PM by Odd1

Yeah Jazz to me was one of the best characters on the show. Tucker was interesting and I liked Danny of course. The main issue I had with Sam was her having a Holier Than Thou type of attitude at times.

edited 14th Aug '15 5:02:30 PM by Bleddyn

Sam is one of those characters I liked more when I was a kid. As an adult I no longer care for her.

Sam was a quintessential example of when writers want to make a Women Are Wiser character without doing a good job of writing her as actually having a point, so she came off a hypocritical at times and a jerk at others while always turning out to be right. Kind of like Debra from Everybody Loves Raymond, though she wasn't that bad.

Jazz was a much better example of the same concept, someone who was critical of Danny and had high morals, but had her own foibles and good personal reasons for acting the way she does.

That's a good way of putting it.

I never like tucker, as friend of mine put it "he look like a sidekick of Sam who is the same thing a sidekick of Danny, so went but star devolping something, he become one big third wheel"

You know, I never see Debra that bad, sometimes the show side with Ramon to many times in the row, even when both parent threat her like crap most of the time.

But on topic, the problem with Women are wise is that it become dificult to mantain if the female chararter star making mistake but on the other hand if she dont it become a mary sue so but thing mess up eventually, Jazz on the other hand is Dany sister so having her own problem feel more berable.

For me Dan phamton is my favorite villian hand down, Vlad while good is to much of a Dr.doom to care(and because butt monkey earlier own) but Dan have this lack of sympath around him that give him a creepy vibe, is like like....everything around to him dosent matter...it feel wrong.

For the rest...I will say Spectra(she is pretty much a depression eater...that make her even more creepier) the black knight And ember, the rest where Ok...except johnny, he was annoying as hell to me.

I liked Dan more or less, but disliked the way the writers tried to push him as being some sort of inevitability for Danny, given how incredibly convoluted his origin was. Or that he's some kind of foil for Danny, given that he's not really Danny at all.

Even as a kid, when he said "don't you see, I still exist which means you still turn into me" I was sitting in front of the tv going "waitaminute, that doesn't make any sense." It's like they wanted to make an evil version of the main character, but chickened out when it came to making him an actual result of the main character undergoing a Heel–Face Turn and thus gave him a backstory that absolved Danny of almost all guilt. And then tried to make Danny guilty anyway.

In any case, I think my favorite villains were Freakshow, and then Technus and maybe Valerie (and the Box Ghost, of course (beware!)). My favorite character of all was probably Clockwork.

edited 2nd Sep '15 9:40:09 PM by KnownUnknown

Because Dan phamton is an accident, not Dany going dark Darth Vader style, is him trying to get way his half ghost but everything goes wrong, so is like "you are going to fail,and try to get away with the pain and im still here" granted by that point clorcwork pretty much cut him from the flow of time.

Also a bad thing is that we never seen Present vlad interact with him at all, it will make intersting to see how everything turn out.

Valarie is a good antihero but her own plot was cut in the season...damn.

Also...what is the deal with that huge ghost in the first movie? the lord of the black night, it feel underused as hell.

They were forced to cut a lot of plots near the show's end. Dan was put into a thermos and left on a plot thread. Valerie was left on a plot thread. And I'd imagine there was more plot threads that were not followed up on....

I remember hearing from somewhere that Danny Phantom near the end of it's run had a death mark on it long before it ended. Nick wanted to kill it off for some reason or another (I'd imagine it's probably because it just wasn't making them as much money as the creator's other show). Not sure if that's true however...

Whatever happened caused the show's last season to be rushed. Season 3's plots were noted to be lackluster from fans (The Sam and Danny romance sub-plot wasn't really well developed and the antagonists were not that great motive wise) and Phantom Planet was a Base Breaker....

On the topic of Dan...he was a interesting villain yes. His motive is convoluted but he still pulled off a memorable impression. I am honestly surprised they got away with heavily implying that he killed his alternate timeline's Danny horribly right in front of alternate Vlad.

edited 3rd Sep '15 12:59:59 AM by Bleddyn