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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#26: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:56:03 PM

Still if your under 12 you cannot be charged for anything, ever. Probably committed for evaluation but not legally responsible.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#27: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:57:44 PM

Bleh... in the US we would probably throw him in the mental ward, which is basically the same thing...

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#28: Aug 23rd 2011 at 3:01:01 PM

[up] Not that I don´t agree with you, but why a mental ward? Some adult rapists can and have commited their crimes without suffering from a single mental disorder. why should a child be any different?

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#29: Aug 23rd 2011 at 3:05:26 PM

I didn't say they didn't deserve prison, but that's probably what the court system would do. It's really hard to get a kid tried as an adult, as I understand it. It's not necessarily as hard to get them committed instead...

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Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#30: Aug 23rd 2011 at 3:29:36 PM

If she's using that kind of force, there's also another obstacle.

There really isn't.

I don't see how I can rebut you without upsetting mods however. Just accept that men can be easily immobilised and an immobilised person can be forced to orgasm. It needn't leave a mark. Physically, anyway. Psychologically, it's a shitty thing to go through.

edited 23rd Aug '11 3:30:08 PM by Michael

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#31: Aug 23rd 2011 at 3:31:42 PM

[up] Not the same person.

I did the same thing while reading the thread, somehow.

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#32: Aug 23rd 2011 at 3:45:24 PM

I don't see it matters who is making the claims. It's sadly easy for a woman to achieve, but common wisdom holds that it is not.

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#33: Aug 23rd 2011 at 3:54:29 PM

It matters because the person you were yelling at didn't actually claim anything of the sort, at least not to my read.

edited 23rd Aug '11 3:54:53 PM by deathjavu

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Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#34: Aug 23rd 2011 at 4:15:22 PM

He claimed the existence of an obstacle that doesn't exist. *shrug*

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#35: Aug 23rd 2011 at 4:15:26 PM

I know there's precedent for #1, since I heard about a 12-year-old boy who was suspected of raping a senior citizen, but I have no idea how it turned out. Has anyone else heard of that case?

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Vellup I have balls. from America Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#36: Aug 23rd 2011 at 4:34:24 PM

He claimed the existence of an obstacle that doesn't exist. *shrug*

I was being a bit more lighthearted there than you seem to have picked up on. There's no need to interpret a little humor as a personal challenge sad.

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ForlornDreamer from United States Since: Apr, 2011
#37: Aug 23rd 2011 at 4:43:36 PM

With regards to #2: There are stories (urban legends or real, not certain) of women using GHB on guys to get knocked up. I don't fully understand the mechanics of date rape drugs, TBH. Is it, for example, possible to coax an erection out of a guy who is half-unconscious? No idea.

edited 23rd Aug '11 4:43:51 PM by ForlornDreamer

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#38: Aug 23rd 2011 at 4:45:29 PM

[up] Probably. It's just a biological reaction to stimulus, after all. The right touch should bring things to attention...

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#39: Aug 23rd 2011 at 4:51:47 PM

Well, the existence of wet dreams proves that men can be aroused in their sleep, so I would guess the answer is yes.

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annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#40: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:32:13 PM

Not just probably, it is certain. Erections are not always voluntary.

You can likely also cause an erection by sexually stimulating the male in other ways, for example stimulating his prostate through the wall of his rectum.

EDIT: Holy shit I just said something creepy on OTC. Please euthanize me.

edited 23rd Aug '11 7:33:45 PM by annebeeche

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#41: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:36:08 PM

Yeah... whoa... I didn't think I'd see stuff like that on this board. tongue

(I jest, I jest. Well, not really, that's pretty strange, but I mean the second part).

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#42: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:49:46 PM

This theard is get awfully creepy guys

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#43: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:51:37 PM

We've had creepier, I think.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#44: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:51:42 PM

...it's a thread about whether a child would be prosecuted for raping an adult and whether a man who was raped by a woman would have to pay child support.

If you're honestly surprised, I have no sympathy. tongue

edited 23rd Aug '11 7:56:58 PM by USAF713

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#45: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:52:59 PM

Yes but it's some how gotten more creeepy..er

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#46: Aug 24th 2011 at 2:57:50 AM

I think we've pretty much covered the OP's questions, though. Any follow-up? If not, I'm inclined to lock this before it goes to stupid places.

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#47: Aug 24th 2011 at 3:12:34 AM

To answer the OP, that's a yes on both countssad

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#48: Aug 24th 2011 at 8:29:48 AM

There are cases of men having they semen outright stole from doctor's offices and still having to foot the bill to the child born. - joeyjojo
I remember reading a case of a man who donated spern to a clinic, being sued by the woman who used it for child support. I don't remember who won the court case, or even if it's been decided.

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Or do it while they're asleep, not everyone wakes up.

If she's using that kind of force, there's also another obstacle. - Vellup
I think you're over-focusing a little bit - joint locks, choking holds, or anything that will give them enough time to immobilize their victim.

Has anyone else heard of that case? - feotakahari
Nope. You have a link?

Is it, for example, possible to coax an erection out of a guy who is half-unconscious? - Forlorn Dreamer
Unless the incapacitating agent has a side effect of lowering the blood flow or neural sensitivity. A good example is alcohol; too much impedes sexual action because it depresses the nervous system, so there's not enough stimulation for the guy to keep it up.

the existence of wet dreams proves that men can be aroused in their sleep, so I would guess the answer is yes. - Loni Jay
More than that, there are documented cases of men having intercourse without ever waking up. One guy was found not guilty for rape after two different ex-girlfriends testified that he'd had sex with them, in his sleep, without ever waking up, and his accuser was a woman that he apparently did the same thing with after a party.

edited 24th Aug '11 8:30:08 AM by BlueNinja0

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#49: Aug 24th 2011 at 9:23:24 AM

Sperm donors who donate to a licensed fertility clinic, sperm bank or whatever are legally protected and cannot be sued for paternity or made to pay child support.

However, if you make a private sperm donation, any agreement between donor and recipient is invalid when it comes to child support. There was at least one case of a man who donated to a lesbian friend being later sued for child support by the state when the woman and child applied for public assistance, and losing. That the woman had signed an agreement that the man was not legally the father and not liable for child support held no weight in court.

Of course, the woman could claim not to know who the father was and it would be more moral, in that instance, to not divulge the name — but entirely possible that she thought that their agreement would be valid.

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#50: Aug 24th 2011 at 10:20:03 AM

Morven: This article is the case I was thinking of. The man had agreed to donate through a clinic for the woman, who decided after giving birth to sue him for child support. He won the case on appeal (though I only remember reading the original article about the lawsuit being filed). Though he wasn't an anonymous donor, he did so under the understanding that his rights would be the same as any other donor.

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