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Archereon Ave Imperator from Everywhere. Since: Oct, 2010
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#1: Aug 18th 2011 at 9:13:26 AM

I'm not sure how this trope has gotten so far without being called out, but the RIS article title is horribly misinformative. Rather than implying a transplant of a show into a different setting, it implies this sPecifically for a sic fi setting.

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#2: Aug 18th 2011 at 9:22:14 AM

Well, it actually says specifically that the trope isn't supposed to be literal, but I think it should be a supertrope and we can fold all the Everythings Better/Worse With X and Instant Awesome Just Add X tropes into the new supertrope. This was discussed in this thread...

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Archereon Ave Imperator from Everywhere. Since: Oct, 2010
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#4: Aug 18th 2011 at 9:39:17 AM

It isn't literal, but it is extremely misleading. Skimming the page, a disproportionate number of the examples involve sci-fi settings, for obvious reasons/

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#5: Aug 18th 2011 at 10:24:08 AM

So clean it. Some are stretching but most people seem to be using it well enough.

Most people seem to get it. In fact I'm kind of disappointed in some of the lost examples. "V For Vendetta has Robin Hood IN SOYLENT GREEN"(or something to similar effect) "How dare you insult my favorite comic book!"*deletes offending entry*

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#6: Aug 18th 2011 at 10:29:07 AM

Then again, people don't take nearly as much as offense if you say X Meets Y or Deconstruction.

This could be an interesting experiment with these kinds of tropes.typos How do we go about finding a control group?

edited 18th Aug '11 10:31:39 AM by Cider

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#7: Aug 18th 2011 at 4:13:06 PM

In Space itself, even taken literally is a trope, and that's what it's used for the most, so I think the best road would be making a super trope to encompass it that is more general.

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#9: Aug 18th 2011 at 4:26:34 PM

This is a Super-Trope, not an index.

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#10: Aug 18th 2011 at 5:00:52 PM

[up] ...care to explain the difference?

That always confused me.

Actually... should it be an index? It might work better...

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#11: Aug 18th 2011 at 5:05:24 PM

An index is a list of tropes of a certain theme. A Super-Trope is a trope itself, but includes Sub Tropes. Now a super trope can be an index, but it usually needs to have loads of them. Pimped-Out Dress has just four sub tropes, so not enough to be an index, while Rule of Cool has dozens.

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#14: Aug 19th 2011 at 4:19:39 AM

Problem is that that seems to be on the YMMV index.

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#15: Aug 19th 2011 at 9:00:49 AM

It shouldn't be. In Space, Recycled The Series, Distaff Counterpart and Animated Adaptation are all, rightfully, objective tropes.

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#16: Aug 19th 2011 at 11:04:24 PM

I don't think it's quite the same as Recycled Premise. A Premise is fairly broad compared to a series.

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#17: Sep 16th 2011 at 2:32:15 PM

Recycled In A New Setting?

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#18: Sep 16th 2011 at 5:08:38 PM

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#19: Sep 16th 2011 at 5:26:26 PM

Seeing how this page is pretty damn large now we really should break it up into components.

And so on leave Recycled In Space as Exactly What It Says on the Tin and make a supertrope to them all.

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#20: Sep 16th 2011 at 6:28:07 PM

I have a YKTTW called Otherworldly Counterpart; maybe we could have something like that for works or settings instead of tropes? (I'm not sure how valid that YKTTW is in itself anyway, and was thinking of making a trope talk or wiki talk thread about it.)

edited 16th Sep '11 6:28:15 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

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#21: Sep 16th 2011 at 11:19:54 PM

There's got to be some fun kind of play on Recycle-Reduce-Reuse, here...

edited 16th Sep '11 11:20:00 PM by NoirGrimoir

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#22: Nov 5th 2011 at 2:02:14 PM

Bump. Has this gone stale?

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#23: Jan 19th 2012 at 7:29:03 PM

Bumpity bump. Anything coming out of this thread, or can it be closed?

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