Description and Laconic are a mess.: Genre Shift

Does anyone else think this page is a mess? The description and laconic basically say it's all about an anime show (and of course it's written with the Fan Myopia that it must apply only to anime) getting Darker and Edgier, but the trope name is neutral, and could logically encompass all sorts of situations, including a dark work getting lighter.

If it really is supposed to only be about "Your Dramedy becomes ultra violent. For either a short period or an extended period," then it needs a rename too.

edited 16th Aug '11 2:32:06 PM by suedenim

Of course this should be general.

What... the... heck?

How did this possibly fly by for so long? It's one of the worst "really specific description for very general (or general-sounding) trope" pages I've seen in ages.

Definitely should be general. Is there any reason to consider this concept

a trope at all?

I think somebody vandalized both. This has been used in the more general sense for a long, long time.

EDIT: Changed the laconic to "A series changes from one genre to another, either for a short period or forever."

edited 16th Aug '11 3:54:07 PM by Discar

If it's mentioning Darker and Edgier, then it's probably wrong. That's Tone Shift.

Eh, I am not seeing how this "is written with the Fan Myopia that it must apply only to anime". The laconic previously didn't even mention anime. The current version of the main page has a somewhat gratuitous anime paragraph, but so does for Video Game.

The description is still kinda messy, though. I support a clarity rewrite.

There's the gratuituous anime paragraph, but also lots of the little, admittedly trifling, verbiage like "in the series," etc. That one's just a pet peeve of mine, language implying "TV series" or "Anime series."

'Series' is sometimes used as placeholder for 'work'. Also, this trope does happen more often in series, doesn't it? It is easier to have a Genre Shift in a long runner series then in a single work. 'Series' can mean 'book series' or 'movie series' as well, you know.

You are overreacting.

edited 16th Aug '11 8:35:45 PM by Heatth

Like I said, it's a pet peeve. I personally always try to use something like "installment of the work."

Series works just fine "A Movie series" "A mini-series" "A series of videogames" ect. It works.

Hm, I think a genre shift in videogames is somewhat different than in other media. Mostly because videogame genres tend to relate more to game play than any other element.

A Game Play Shift is different than a Genre Shift actually. Unexpected Gameplay Change is a sequence specific one but it doesnt have to be one of those.

A Videogame can do a traditional Genre Shift in like Metal Gear Solid games are all different from game to game.

edited 16th Aug '11 8:50:38 PM by Raso

I went ahead and axed the gratuitous anime paragraph, since no one was defending it. I did the same to the video game paragraph (which also seemed to me to have a rather whiny tone), but I left stuff like "in the series" alone, as I agree that 'series' is a pretty broad term.

Edit: I also agree with Raso that a "Game Play Shift" is not the same as this trope.

edited 16th Aug '11 8:49:05 PM by nrjxll

That paragraph should be merged into a studio specific entry with all the studio's works that fit that (which is almost every single one of them).

edited 16th Aug '11 8:52:02 PM by Raso

Feel free to put it in the examples if you want, just keep it out of the description.

I don't really see a big problem anymore, although the description is somewhat clunky and a bit too negative (IMO). Anyone else feel there's still a major issue here?