Great Scenes from Movies You Disliked

All the scenes in The Dark Knight involving The Joker and Two-Face.

The last battle in Equilibrium was so well done, that it almost made up for the terribad world/plot/characters of the rest of the movie.

Scratch the surface of a cynic and you'll find a dissapointed idealist.

Carly's introduction in the last Transformer's movie. Sure the movie reads like it was written by a 3rd grader who was huffing glue but watching her ass wiggle up the stairs was a high point.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

On the note of Transformers,the original had the awesome moments of

1. Megatron's defeat (Probably the only smart thing in the whole series) 2. Jazz' death (Great lines) 3. Mikaela telling Sam "I'm Glad I got in the car" 4. All the scenes with Simmons 5. Bumblebee shrinking the All-Spark.

The rest of the movie was run-of-the-mill,but I can't hate it like the rest of them.

Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter

Yeah, it's funny. After being subjected to Rot F and tormented with Dot M, the original seems so much better.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

I heard that Dot M was better than Rot F

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

Being better than Revenge of the Fallen isn't really an achievement.

No, I'd say Dot M was by far the worst. Then again comparing Rot F and Dot M is like comparing bowel movements, no matter who wins at the end you're still left with two piles of shit.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

Honestly, I completely disagree. The first one was the unbearable one. Why? It had no freakin' Transformers. It was an hour of annoying humans, with the occasional robot fight every now and then, and then finally they show up, and do nothing until the climax, which is by far the best part of the movie. Because of this, the second one is automatically a huge improvement in my mind, but it wasn't a great movie, until the climax, where it was freakin' spectacular. The third one? No Megan Fox. Hardly any sexual jokes (except for a few at the beginning). Lots of robots. Lots of action. Hardly any annoying humans. Good plot. The third one, in my opinion, is by far the best. It was the closest the series got to an actual Transformers movie.

When it comes to all the problems of the first movie and the slightly-fewer problems of the second movie, I don't blame Michael Bay. I blame Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci, the two writers of the first one and two of three of the second. Honestly, I haven't seen a movie from them that I really liked (the closest is the new Star Trek movie, but it had a lot of immature sexual humor in it as well). Once they were out, and the third writer of the second movie was at the helm, the series took a HUGE step forwards. Dark of the Moon is, in my mind, a legitimately excellent movie.

(holds up flame shield)

While Dark Of The Moon isn't a great movie...I believe it's a good movie.

I certainly felt satisfied, anyways.

My least favorite Harry Potter movie, but still an awesome scene.

GOH! JII! RAH!

I feel like Troy had several scenes like this. I didn't like the movie, but the climactic sword fight is one of the best action scenes I have ever seen. O'toole and Pitt's scene right after was great as well.

Any scene with Buzz in Surrogates

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A few of the fights from Mortal Kombat Annihilation were good. I also really liked the climax fights from Rocky IV and Rocky V, even though I didn't care for the rest of those two movies (especially V).

Weird in a Can (updated M-F)

...what?

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

I'd like a better argument than "what?" personally.

I think Dark of the Moon had a good plot for several reasons. 1) The whole conspiracy of the Space Race being due to the Transformers is a fascinating idea, especially when you find out that yes, in real life, we did lose contact with Neil and Buzz for twenty minutes. Them putting in a REASON for it, one connecting to the Transformers, was just a brilliant idea. 2) The whole betrayal-of-the-master plot was great as well, and honestly I didn't expect it at all. I won't go any further to avoid spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet. 3) Bringing Cybertron to Earth and using human workers was a chilling idea, although admittedly I heard this was a plot for the original cartoon as well. However, it still worked here, especially with some humans being a part of it. The fact that humanity is helping the Decepticons was a REALLY dark idea, and I really dug it.

This is all opinion, BTW. You can disagree with it, but it's just my opinion. But back on topic.

I didn't really care for the new Alice in Wonderland movie (I didn't think it was HORRIBLE, just "meh") but I loved the whole badass design of the Jabberwocky. He should've talked more, though: anyone with Christopher Lee's voice should have at least more than two lines!

The Prince's Tale from Deathly Hallows Part 2.

Well when you're confronted with something so completely nonsensical and bizzare it's hard to compose a more thought out reply. I half assumed you were just trolling.

Here's the issue, you mention concepts which are great. There were certainly some half decent ideas in the movie. The problem is that you can't make a movie with just a couple cool ideas. You have to take those ideas and turn them into a coherent story. Dot M never did that. It never even attempted that.

Not a bad idea, certainly. However it didn't make a whole lot of sense. 20 minutes? Billions of dollars spent to get men there and all they dedicate to exploring the spacecraft is 20 minutes? Not to mention who cares how much it cost to send men to the moon? NBE-1 coughed up enough tech to kick start the modern age. This is an ENTIRE INTERSTELLAR SPACESHIP. Fuck the cost, if this had any relation to reality we'd have had an entire colony on the moon by 1980 if that was the case.

There's also the little issue with how the hell does this mesh with Megatron's plans from any of the first two films? Where the hell did all the decepticons on the moon come from? Why was none of this influencing what was happening in the first movie?

Pretty sure just that phrase already does it and I doubt there are many people who aren't aware of it. Those that aren't probably don't care about Dot M. The biggest problem with this part of the plot is it completely sidelined Megatron. Then again Rot F also pushed Megs aside but in Dot M he had a truly bit part. I think Soundwave got more screen time than Megatron did.

It's also an incredibly stupid idea. Cybertron was built on a Transformers scale and most of them range from 2 to five times taller than a human and 20 to 500 times more massive. Humans are just too tiny. It'd be like us enslaving the chipmunks of the world to do our dirty work. Then there's the little issue of getting us to Cybertron. So what if they dragged it into orbit, you've still got to get humans from Earth to Cybertron and right now we have no spacecraft that could do it and thanks to Megatron... NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE. Then there's the issue of there only being a few dozen EVA suits in the entire world, I guess the 6 billion of us will just share. How are you going to keep all the humans alive while they're working on Cybertron? Based off what we have seen of it there's no atmosphere, no habitable biomes. This isn't ancient Egypt, you can't just whip the slaves until they do as they're told or you're going to burn through the entire planet's worth in a hurry. Then there's the issue of Cybertron's shear size, even if you have the Earth for it's resources, how long will those last? You've still got to keep the slaves alive. Hell, how will they even force compliance out of humanity? 200 Decepticons and a couple of ships? Sure they locked down Chicago but the entirety of Earth is a bit bigger and humans can kill Transformers. A few spec ops troopers with hand held weapons fucked up a half dozen Decepticons when they ambushed them. Then there's the ecological disaster that bringing Cybertron into Earth orbit would be. Earthquakes, vulcanism, tidal shifts. They'd probably wind up killing a few hundred million of the slaves just in the first week of the Earth getting its shit fucked up not to mention how many you'd wind up losing to starvation and disease. Figure the process of just getting Cybertron that close will kill one or two billion of the slaves right off the bat. The only thing chilling about that idea was how incredibly stupid it was. The old cartoon standby of making humans mine energon made more sense than this and that was in an 80's cartoon.

Now I did like that the Decepticons had humans working with them. At first blush it seemed like this might be a chance for the human element of these movies to not be a soul sucking bore, aside from Mc Kayla's tits and Carly's ass. Well, it's not. What we got wasn't too bad, but it could have been so much more. Should have been so much more of the movie. As is they just barely brushed on the concept while subjecting us to Deep Wang, John Malkovich, John Tuturo, and watching Shia Le Beuf act like a total douche.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

And from what I remember: wasn't Dark of the Moon's plot originally the plot to the first film? The teaser trailers were even similar (Transformers being found in space).

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If Dot M had been the plot of the first movie it would have likely made a lot more sense in the grand scheme of things. Hell, reverse order might work better.

Start off with the grand scheme to rebuild Cybertron, enslave all of humanity. The have a big ass army to do it with.

With a lot fewer Decepticons they decide to fall back to the Fallen's plan and just harvest the Sun for Energon and use that to help Cybertron or at least move on in their search for a way.

Finally with his legions depleted Megatron tries a last bit gambit to get the Allspark so he can raise a new army.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

It'd make more sense, but wouldn't really work in terms of sequel escalation would it?

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

Sequel escalation, constantly outdoing yourself is a really stupid trope. It could work, if you're willing to put the time and effort into the characters and crafting a good story.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

then again: If the stakes are gonna be so much smaller in the sequels then why bother having sequels at all? The characters have already accomplished the most they're ever going to

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

Ugh. If you write it properly you will be fine. Hell, if anything you can make the human side of the decepticons ever more central and if the Autobots keep taking losses it can get hairy for them.

"Tyyr's a necessary evil. " Spirit

Nolan's Batman films already proved that averting sequel escalation can work well. The League of Shadows' scheme in Batman Begins was much bigger than anything the Joker did, but The Dark Knight still felt like much higher stakes because Joker was so much better at playing mindgames with Batman.

edited 28th Oct '11 7:23:53 PM by MetaFour

I didn't write any of that.