The FLDS is going to make a statue dedicated to Warren Jeffs

Just what the world doesn't need a statue dedicated to that sick dog.And another reason on how Warren Jeffs have warped these people into thinking that he was God's voice on earth.I don't have a link but I found an article on Christian Post about it.

Sounds like a good target of vandalism. Hell, I'd personally spray paint a clownface make-up on the statue and several penises on it. (joking of course, vandalism is bad)

edited 14th Aug '11 5:37:04 PM by MarkVonLewis

I don't know vandalism in this case would be acceptable and even count as a service to the world.

Don't worry it will hopefully someday be toppled down like Saddam Hussein's.

I was just tossing in that little disclaimer to cover my ass. Last thing I need is people thinking I'm advocating crime. I merely jokingly suggest it as a comedic device.

Sorry,but the world does not need a statue of a man who promotes such evil stuff.Better yet I think a lot of people from around the area should sign a petition to prevent its construction.It might not work but Warren Jeffs does not derserve a statue.

Oh I'm not saying he does. Hell if it does get made I'd wager a whole 750ml bottle of Jose Gold that a group of people will get together and demolish it.

Warren Jeffs shouldn't get a statue.

Won't work- people around the area are the ones who want to make the statue in the first place.

Meh. much as I dislike him, if his little cult wants to build a statue to their prophet, they're perfectly allowed to. To them, telling them "you can't do that, because he's a bad, bad man!" would be like... someone telling you that you can't build a statue of Jesus because he's a bad, bad man!. Incomprehensible, and probably, very offensive.

edited 14th Aug '11 5:53:35 PM by Wulf

Yeah,I know but it would be funny to see birds put all their droppings on that man's statue.On the other hand that would be just insulting the birds who have good taste where to do their business.

edited 14th Aug '11 5:58:13 PM by jazzflower14

Going to make a suggestion; yes, Warren Jeffs is a dickwad and the FLDS putting up a statue in his honor is a gross violation of good taste. I think we're all in agreement on this point.

So, let us find something to discuss other than how stupid it is. Threads like that have a habit of getting locked quick.

And if there isn't anything else, let's call for a lock and have done.

What kind of material do you think the statue will be made of? Marble seems out of their price range.

Maybe concrete, but that'd look terrible, though.

@Mark: they've got the money for marble. They're a church.

@Thread: I'm wondering; should they be allowed to do this? Yes, I know that they are a group of terrible people blah blah blah but think on the question a moment...does venerating a convicted criminal contradict US law?

Personally, I feel this points up a serious weakness in our "freedom of religion" law. It's too goddamned vague. There ought to be a provision in it that organized religions can only claim such sanctuary if and only if their actions are not counter to the laws of this country. I'm not sure where venerating a convicted criminal would fall...anyone happen to know?

He's not anywhere near the level of Warren Jeffs, and of course he existed a long time ago, but people venerate Ned Kelly here in Australia and he was hanged for murder.

I'm not sure how you'd write a law that prohibited Warren Jeffs statues and not Ned Kelly (or an American equivalent) ones.

edited 14th Aug '11 8:07:45 PM by LoniJay

@Loni: good point. Most of our national heroes are murderers of one stripe or other...to quote Mal Reynolds, "Every man who ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sonuvabitch or other"...

I guess they do have a legal right to do it. I wonder how long it'll be up before someone vandalizes it though.

A better question here would be:

Why is it considered acceptable to encourage vandalization of a statue of Warren Jeffs, but not some other public figure? Yes, he was a terrible person, and yes, I disagree vehemently with what he did, but why should that make it okay? I'm sure that someone who tries to vandalize the Veitnam Veterans Memorial has the same sense of disgust about the Vietnam War, but that's considered completely unacceptable.

edited 14th Aug '11 8:05:13 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

Well, the people who died in Vietnam didn't do anything themselves; even if you think Vietnam was horrible, you'd want to deface a statue of Johnson or Kissinger, not the Veterans Memorial.

EDIT: And part of the reason it's not okay to deface such a statue is that someone who doesn't necessarily support Johnson or Kissinger has to clean it up. So you're making more work for some poor shlub, and not actually doing anything about a war that ended long ago.

EDIT 2: That said, I think it would still be defensible anyway.

edited 14th Aug '11 8:13:39 PM by BlackHumor

Fair point. But that's a minor difference. DG is still pointing up something valid; people's temptation to engage in selective ethics.

It's a majority/minority thing. The vast majority of people would say "A child rapist does not deserve a statue" quite possibly with the caveat of "he deserves to be hanged." The vast majority does not hold the same level of contempt for soldiers who gave their lives in a war, even a war they may not have agreed with.

That's why I was joking about encouraging of vandalism.

I can't condone people fucking up the statue, but if someone does I can't say I'll shed any tears.

I think this goes to freedom of expression; they're free to have a statue of their leader made if they want. And it's likely that the only place they'll put it up is on their own property; they'd run into obstacles anywhere else.

Which adds something like breaking into someone's home/private property to the list of crimes of anyone who wants to deface this hypothetical statue. I think the best response to this is to not give a fuck; stuff like this deserves to be ignored. Doing anything else gives the man more glory than he deserves.

Ace's right.

Best response to Jeffs' abominable visage put to stone is this:

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Ace@You are right but the main thing I am mad at is how this man made people so warped up that they worship him as a god.

Sigh!The world is jacked up!

jazz: Ain't that the truth. World can be a fucked up place; the only solace is that there is more good than fucked-up.

Well, that's a different issue than whether or not someone can put up a statue, Jazz. All in all, I think this specifically is a non-issue.

Okay, so we've hashed this out. Can we get a lock?

Why are we paying attention to the crazed antics of a cult again? Just ignore these people and they'll go away.