Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock

Remember, all of Frieza's race can breath in space.

edited 5th Sep '11 10:39:42 AM by Demongodofchaos3

Wasn't it more that they don't need to breathe at all?

I don't remember, though even goku still has to hold his breath underwater.

Goku has to breathe, yes. We shall assume that Earth's moon had an atmosphere, for sake of the Boss Rabbit story.

Frieza attests that the vacuum of space wouldn't kill him, so either he can somehow breathe when there's nothing to breathe, or he doesn't have to breathe at all.

Maybe Frieza's ship has an oxygen bubble around it (To explain how Bardock/Frieza soldiers can breathe in space). Another explanation could be that they were low enough in planet vegeta's atmosphere having this fight that there was still oxygen.

I'd just excuse it as a function of their magic size fits all armor. At anyway, the drama from blowing up planets after everyone worth fighting could do that already was that Freeza could survive in space indefinitely and Goku couldn't. Cell says surviving in space was a physical property of Freeza so we can assume it extends to the rest of his species.

Yup, Bardock was definitely the ancestor of the Sayans. Told you so. Retcons like these shouldn't come as a surprise, as it doesn't really affect much of canon.

By the time the Namek blew up, Freeza (I'm so used to spelling it Frieza, but apparently that's been changed) had lost his armor. Also, I'm pretty sure he said he could breathe in space.

I'm pretty sure we all saw that one thing coming, right?

edited 6th Sep '11 10:02:40 AM by wanderlustwarrior

The armor fan wank is for the saiyans, not Freeza. Anyway it's not a retcon, its a What If. In the original legend the guy couldn't handle the power and died. There was also different kind of alien on Plant in the mainline.

Yeah there was. In the backstory, there were two races on planet Vegeta. The Saiyans, and some other race that I think was a fruit pun of some sort. The Saiyans were warriors, and the other race were scientists. Guess what happened to the scientists.

Of course, that's moot since the other race were human-shaped, not anything like what's on the planet in this story.

And yeah, it's probably a what if: again, in the movie, Bardock was vaporized in the explosion; he was the first thing in that death ball, before it reached the planet. Here, he was blown clear of it.

edited 6th Sep '11 12:28:06 PM by Enlong

Yep, Bardock would have used it against Frieza from the get-go if he could turn SSJ.

edited 6th Sep '11 3:09:32 PM by vanishingreality

No, there wasn't a different kind of people on Plant that we know of. The other race we saw was anime filler, the Yardrat's that appeared in DBO are vastly different from their filler designs. Considering this race has developed the salve that was later used in the healing pods, I'm going to guess that these guys are Ooishi's version of the "Tuffles" who we never saw in the manga.

Ooishi seems to be disregarding the anime and tv special, because nothing in this special contradicts the manga (we only saw a single panel of Bardock in the manga, not how the planet was destroyed etc), the only thing that isn't consistent is the effects of time travel - but he is using a different method of time travel than Trunks did, and as such the method Bardock was sent back in time by didn't split the timeline. It neatly fits into manga canon.

Kay, point made, they could be the Tuffles. Doesn't change how Bardock doesn't match the described legend...we could fan wank that too...but it still won't matter. It's a What If comic made for the Dragon Ball Heroes video game, it hasn't retconed anything because it wasn't meant to be in continuity, that's the point of a "what if", to show how things would have changed if X did Y(seems we got a stable time loop).

IIRC, The manga version of the myth simply states that the Super Saiyan had a great amount of power he could only maintain in a transformed state (which is the Super Saiyan form itself) and that it was the cause of his death (which hasn't happened to Bardock in the special, but could happen later that we won't see). So it still fits, and I know it is a "what-if" I was just explaining how it can fit into continuity anyway.

Also, I had some Fan Wank about Chilled, as he is unable to transform but resembles Freeza's first form (which is not Freeza's true form). I think perhaps Chilled is a member of Freeza's race before the mutation that made them so much more powerful, and Freeza's first form looks very similar to Chilled because he restricted himself to roughly the same level of power as Chilled. It would make sense, as Freeza's first form is 530,000 and Bardock was 10,000 against Freeza, so going Super Saiyan would give him 500,000, or higher if he got a "near death power up" from having his wounds healed on Planet Plant (which I believe he did, as he overwhelmed Chilled easily).

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-21/dragon-ball-episode-of-bardock-spinoff-manga-gets-anime

It's getting an anime.

Masako Nozawa and Ryusei Nakao are returning.

I'm okay with this.

Oh yeah, I was also wrong about the manga version of the Super Saiyan myth. Says nothing about transformations and his death, just that he was a brutal motherfucker and the like. Looking forward to the anime adaption.

EDIT: Hoping it gets an English dub so I don't have to put up with Nozawa as Bardock. UGH.

edited 23rd Nov '11 3:49:13 AM by Saiga

Does this silly piece of What If? fanfic need an anime adaptation? They could remake the original OVA instead.

Huh? She's better then most of the actors in the English dub. I think I'm the only person on this forum that hates the english dub of the Dragon Ball series. Kai is an exception. It had a lot to do with the rewritten dialogue.

They could make this, and then run it in a special TV event, with Bardock: Father of Goku being followed immediately by this.

@bobad: She's a perfectly competent actress, no doubt. But the thing is, she was fine for kid Goku, since he was a kid, we accept for adult Goku because, well, it's the same voice, and Goku is a childish and pure character anyway. Bardock may be his father, but he's an experienced and gruff Saiyan warrior, he has a badass scar, snaps his opponents' necks and wears a cloth soaked in his friends' blood as a headband. It's really moodbreaking to have him voiced by a screaming woman.

I haven't even see the Dragon Ball heroes game but its tie in comic is getting an anime?

Its probably going to suck. The dragon ball anime started sucking around Namek where it really started dragging on and the plot never really got back to a respectable speed. It would be nice if they did make a good dragon ball show for once, there is no good reason for them not to but given the source material I wouldn't get my hopes up.

The anime is a short movie(20 minutes), and I really liked it, more than the manga. It adapted the three chapters without dragging things out, if anything it speed up the pace, plus the Super Saiyan transformation was really cool.

A new Dragon Ball anime?

WHAT THE FUCK

The pacing was a problem with the anime getting ahead of the manga, they had to make things drag on more and more to let the manga get ahead. They won't have that slow pacing when they're just creating things from scratch, like they are doing with the recent specials.

Their is also no new anime series coming out, despite rumours. It's just some recent specials so far.