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LiberatedLiberater 奇跡の魔女 from [DATA EXPUNGED] Since: Jun, 2011
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#102: Jan 16th 2012 at 9:37:20 AM

I don't think it's necessary to create a new page; Just adding a few lines (or even a folder, to save space) to the introduction of the Shōnen Genre perhaps. I say this, because that troupe wouldn't apply to each character. Alternatively, a new page for an anime main character, detailing the usual cliches of the genre.

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#103: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:01:26 PM

[up] I'd say it needs a page, as Shonen is a demographic not a genre. Standardized shonen action hero is a trope though, and there is a formula shonen heroes tend to follow and there is a set formula to most Shonen, popularized and enforced by Shonen Jump both Bakuman *

and Gintama * discuss this at length and it is well-known about within said industry.

edited 16th Jan '12 12:01:51 PM by Vyctorian

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#104: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:07:23 PM

This would best be called something along the lines of Standard Action Shonen Tropes or, when referring to the hero specifically, Standard Action Shonen Hero Tropes. I believe we established the action part is important, since most non-action-y ones (like Death Note) tend to ignore these conventions altogether.

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#105: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:15:26 PM

[up] Actually the series (Bakuman) I mentioned which explains a lot of these tropes and their connections in detail was made by DeathNote's creators after death note was finished. :3

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#106: Jan 16th 2012 at 2:23:46 PM

Problem is that "standart" is changing by time, current standart shonen hero using and shonen hero 10 years ago in many cases totaly different set of tropes...

edited 16th Jan '12 2:24:05 PM by Tenzen12

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#107: Jan 16th 2012 at 2:35:24 PM

[up] I don't think so. For one thing, some of the current shonen themselves are at least a decade old. And a lot of these tropes date back to at least Goku of Dragon Ball.

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#108: Jan 16th 2012 at 2:37:08 PM

We can just use Common Action Shonen Tropes. I might ykttw in a couple of days, but this'll take work.

edited 16th Jan '12 2:37:20 PM by lu127

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#109: Jan 16th 2012 at 3:13:45 PM

[up][up][up]Not at all Dragon Ball is 28 years ago and Yu Yu Hakusho was 22 years ago, and those tropes are still just as present in Naruto, Bleach, and one piece as well as new comers.

The two examples listed basically codified the shonen formula for all those who followed them.

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#110: Aug 10th 2012 at 5:43:42 PM

Necro.

Okay, in shonen action series, the main characters tend to be very young, most of them in high school. What are some shonen action works where the main characters are anywhere above 25? Rurouni Kenshin's main character is 28 (although he really doesn't look like it) and Tiger & Bunny's main character is also quite old, as far as I heard.

Any other examples?

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#111: Aug 10th 2012 at 6:16:41 PM

Gintama. Gintoki is most likely nearing his 30. Twenties for sure.

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#113: Aug 10th 2012 at 6:44:10 PM

Goku is pushing 40 by the time Dragonball ends. And I'm pretty sure Kenshiro is past his teens.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#114: Aug 10th 2012 at 7:03:16 PM

Trigun started publication in a Shonen mag and then changed to a Seinen one, right? Vash is well above his teens unless I remember abysmally bad.

#115: Aug 10th 2012 at 7:40:32 PM

Well above his teens is an understatement.The dude is 152 years old!

edited 10th Aug '12 7:57:40 PM by CrimsonFlameKnight

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#116: Aug 10th 2012 at 7:46:35 PM

I didn't want to spoil anything for anyone, actually.

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#117: Aug 10th 2012 at 9:01:41 PM

Yami Yugi is technically over 3000 years old.

I think Yusei Fudo is a bit older then the other yu-gi-oh protagonists (around late teens to early 20's, I think).

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harkko Since: Apr, 2010
#118: Aug 11th 2012 at 8:50:45 AM

Cobra from Space Adventure Cobra looks like he's thirty and Ryo Saeba from City Hunter is also clearly an adult. Hokuto No Ken 's Kenshiro is at least twenty.

edited 11th Aug '12 8:51:43 AM by harkko

#119: Aug 12th 2012 at 12:44:01 AM

Just remembered that there's also Gamma Akutabi from the short-lived Zombie Powder. Shame too, since in retrospect, Gamma is pretty refreshing compared to most modern-day shounen heroes.

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#120: Aug 13th 2012 at 3:01:38 AM

On Gintoki last time I checked he is exactly 29 years old.

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#121: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:05:47 AM

How about a younger follower whom admire everything the Shonen protagonist does?

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#122: Aug 13th 2012 at 9:55:14 AM

Well, Naruto had Konohamaru.

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#124: Aug 13th 2012 at 11:15:22 AM

Toriko has, um, that cook guy.

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#125: Aug 13th 2012 at 2:51:13 PM

Gintama has Shinpachi and Dragon Ball had Gohan once Goku grew up

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