Warren Jeffs Sentenced To Life In Prison

First and foremost: DO NOT go into waaaay too much detail about "how much you'd love to torture that bastard to death." This isn't about revenge fantasies or bullcrap like that. Keep it to yourself.

So, the self-proclaimed prophet Warren Jeffs has been sentenced to life in prison for charges of sexual assault of a minor*

. What do you think this means for his followers? With their leader in prison, will their religion crumble, or will the "unfair imprisonment of a righteous man" simply bolster their belief in him? Will another simply seize power? Will they even find out about it?

They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?

Oh,knowing a cult like that they have already moved to other leaders to keep this thing coming.I don't know about you but why hasn't anyone crack down hard on these guys for at least polgamy and most of all child abuse.

edited 9th Aug '11 2:16:57 PM by jazzflower14

His following is small enough that it'll probably just kind of fade away.

Of course, people probably said that about Jesus too.

Somehow you know that the time is right.

@OP: If some banger can still call shots from behind bars, so can Jeffs.

@Jazzflower- Well, the child abuse can't be proven if no one reports it. We may all "know" it's going on, but unless someone comes forward and says "hey,this guy's been touching little girls", we can't do anything about it. And, since it's very rare for people in his group to talk to anyone outside it, we really can't do anything.

As for polygamy, that's a whole 'nother thread, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?

The thing that is wrong with it is that the older men are pushing out the younger men so they can get all the younger women.Most of all some of these wives are underage.

I am against polygamy on religious and moral grounds.However,anyone can agree that there has been a lot of abuse going on in Warren Jeffs' cult.Plus there has been former members who have come out and said a lot of unsavory thing about the cult.

I think writing them off is bad for many reasons.

edited 9th Aug '11 2:31:41 PM by jazzflower14

Absolutely, but the most anyone can do is investigate based on whatever tips they get. If no one currently within the cult and living on the compound talks to police, they can't do much else except sniff around and hope they walk in on a sixty year old man with a fifteen year old girl. Add to that the fact that IIRC, Jeffs basically owned his compound and had a lot of sway with the rest of the city, and you get a whole lotta nothing being done.

edited 9th Aug '11 2:38:01 PM by Wulf

They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?

I am starting to think of getting a dartboard with that man's face on it.

So,they are getting away with their abuses by shutting up authority.That is one of the biggest abuse of power and money there is.

But I think they should hide secret camereas that can be hidden around their compounds to catch them in the act.All I know if the cameras catches anything it won't be pretty or pleasant.

How exactly do they know what's going on, if they don't have enough information to prove anything about anyone other than Jeffs himself?

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful

Wasn't much or most of the testimony against Jeffs based on the word of men exiled from his compound or w/e?

I believe they had a recording of him sexually assaulting a minor.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Well I say good riddance that the piece of subhuman trash Jeffs is behind bars.

On topic, though, it's possible his cult of loons will keep on doing what they do, but if we got Jeffs imprisoned, we can keep locking those fools up.

The cult has only two real options - keeping doing what they do and get imprisoned, or leave the cult. I wager it'll crumble.

Even better is taking down the next leader in line and banning them for good.I know freedom of religion is guaranteed but I hate people taking God's name in vain to do very evil things and this is one of them.

No need to disband them as religion; just punish child abuse as the law is written. Put all the kids in foster care and therapy for starters. A cult and a private citizen should not be permitted to control entire communities; including the police force and social services.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

After hearing some of the stuff I've heard about him, locked up is where he belongs.

(If he's subject to prison rape, I'll gladly look the other way. Normally, I'd care, but sometimes, you make exceptions.)

Closer to back-on-topic, I don't care what they believe, but the child abuse and molestation does need to be punished in accordance with law. As for his sect, I presume it'll probably survive in some form or another, but hopefully things will get better.

edited 9th Aug '11 6:31:56 PM by DarkConfidant

jazz: agreed. Freedom of religion, in my mind, ends when people start breaking laws.

I mean, hell they wouldn't people start up a cult to Smashana-Kali and start sacrificing people. People shouldn't get to molest kids under religious reasons.

I don't know but I think the battle to dismantle this cult will be a long one since this has been going on decades.And most of all if they have been bribing the officials then I will be doubly angry at the authority because they are supposed to stop this.

Well, apparently some bigwig named Merril Jessop took over from Jeffs right away. He's one of the biggest businessmen in Utah and a lifelong FLDS member. His cousin is an opponent of the church who operates some kind of underground railroad for the wives and their kids.

'Tis a nasty business. These guys are to Utah what Koresh supposedly was to Texas.

edited 9th Aug '11 6:42:57 PM by johnnyfog

I'm a skeptical squirrel

And as Waco showed, you can't exactly roll in and break em up with an iron boot. Too many innocent people get caught in the crossfire in that kind of mess.

Best we can do really is keep helping the women escape and get enough evidence to keep putting those bastards away until none are free.

edited 9th Aug '11 6:44:20 PM by MarkVonLewis

I don't know about you the more I hear about this cult the more they are deserving of the Complete Monster status.I know people say no one in life can be labeled but I say differently.I have a feeling that they know this is all crud and are just using the women and the children to have unlimited authority.

The biggest problem with this, is that they already tried, and failed. Nobody*

will talk to the police. When he was originally arrested, they did a full raid of the compound, had all of the children turned over to Social Services - and after a few months had to let them all go due to lack of evidence of abuse. From my reading of news articles, if hadn't recorded himself having sex with his new 12-year-old "wife" for the first time, he might have not been convicted at this trial.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

Thats what makes it all the more frutstating it appears that they are smart and know how appear all innocent.It's the biggest bitch in sheep's clothing I have ever seen and not to mention the most monsterous.I don't know but the authorities need to be trickier in order to catch these dicks in the act.

I say we send in our spec-ops to discreetly plant listening bugs and cameras.

And we'll get a warrant to do so first so it's admissable in court.

Didn't they try that with Waco?

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian

Girlfriend@ The thing is people need to be smarter and clever in order to catch them in the act.I don't thing it would evolve into Waco but then again people said no one would ever bomb the Trade Center again(I don't mean this as a joke).All I am saying that this needs to be carefully plan so nothing wrong can happen.