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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#26: Sep 17th 2011 at 9:16:31 PM

[up]No YKTTW, no examples, just a stub someone inflicted on us for no particular reason. Too bad TRS is full to capacity! *sigh*

It actually sounds like a supertrope, but we almost have too many tropes about this family of camera shots, so I don't know.

My recommendations so far: rename Raimi Vision to Shaky P.O.V. Cam. Make the Shaky Cam redirect point to Jitter Cam (for now—in the long run, I'd like to swap the two). Either make Monster Vision a redirect to P.O.V. Cam (which covers it) or cut and send to YKTTW. Make sure all the tropes interlink so people can figure out which one they need. And...I think that may do it. Oh, maybe add a few useful redirects to some of these.

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Gillespie Talkative Loon from Western Canada Since: Sep, 2011
#27: Sep 17th 2011 at 11:26:40 PM

Having seen some of Raimi's movies, I know this is his signature camera style, so it's a little sad that we need to rename it; I guess it's more obscure than I thought.

If it is renamed, I think the name should focus on the 'velocity' of the camera work and how it follows its prey, not how shaky it is. It 'is' supposed to have been shot by a hand-held camera - or at least have that effect - but that's not its defining trait, so it shouldn't be lumped in with Shaky Cam (even though that was the original name for it. Confusingly enough.) Shaky P.O.V. Cam just sounds like something else, like something you'd see in a strictly action movie with no horror or sense of being chased. How about Danger Cam? Pursuing Cam? Chasing Cam? Sorry, I just like the current name I guess.

Changing Jitter Cam to Shaky Cam is a great idea, though.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#28: Sep 18th 2011 at 2:06:09 PM

[up]But it can be used in a movie with no horror. There's nothing implicitly horrific about the technique. It was invented for (and is remarkably good at) being a POV monster, but it's not limited to that by any means.

I think the problem may be that the name is inherently confusing. Raimi's work had three critical elements: shaky, POV, and fast-moving. The current trope, as described, actually focuses on only the last two (making the Shaky Cam redirect even more confusing). But Raimi's version may be Too Rare To Trope—or at least, overly specific. Basically, to cover all the bases, we would need:

But that's a lot of tropes, and is likely to be confusing. So we need to figure out which of these we need, and which we can ignore as simply being A+B. The A+B+C option is the most obvious one to omit, but, unfortunately for Raimi fans (like me), it's also the only one that really deserves the name Raimi Vision.

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#29: Dec 8th 2011 at 8:01:32 PM

Bumping for more votes, name ideas and/or biblical plagues.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#30: Jan 5th 2012 at 7:00:08 AM

Calling crowner for Shakey POV Cam. Please start the rename.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#31: Jan 5th 2012 at 11:56:34 AM

Trope renamed and wicks switched. Monster Vision still needs something done about it, though.

Also, someone should YKTTW Fast Moving Camera, as suggested earlier, since we are missing that trope. I don't really know enough about camera tricks to do it, otherwise I would.

edited 5th Jan '12 12:51:14 PM by ccoa

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#32: Jan 5th 2012 at 12:44:40 PM

Isn't there some sort of name they use in the film business to talk about it, like Whip Pan or something?

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#33: Jan 5th 2012 at 1:04:57 PM

[up]Shaky Cam, although Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell are, like, the only two people (apart from fans of Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell) that I've ever heard use that term to refer to this.

The page description notes that Shaky Cam was at some point a redirect to this page, although it now brings readers somewhere else.

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