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[Edited by Fighteer]
Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
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And how much of that was Vanko? (all of it)
Vanko was the only other technician scientist with multiple things that worked, but he lost to Tony because it wasn't about winning a fight, but showing he was better.
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A lot of War Machine's weapons are basic. Advanced weapons like the "Ex-Wife" suck horribly. Vanko is responsible for the Hammer Droids.
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Yeah, most of War Machine's guns are LOTS OF BULLETS. Hammer didn't build bullets.
My various fanfics.
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Having the Mandarin be another guy in armor would have been kind of samey, even if the armor replicated ring powers.
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It would still have been a guy lounging around with his thumb up his ass while someone used his name and attract unwanted attention to his organization.
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What? Why wouldn't it have been the actual Mandarin?
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With the exception of Thor's opponents, Marvel really seems to love "the same but evil". I guess the Extremis we got was actually a marked step up in changing the formula, even if they had a confusing grab bag of powers that made no sense.
Killian didn't breath enough fire during his fight with Tony.
No offense and I don't mean you specifically, but I'm always a little surprised that all these people say they want a comic-accurate Mandarin and how we were cheated, but they apparently don't know enough about the character to know his rings aren't magic. They're alien tech.
edited 30th Jul '14 4:49:47 PM by comicwriter
This is a title.
Close enough for it not to matter.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Thor used magic against Tony, and it only supercharged him. It was magically induced lightning, but it shouldn't matter.
It does matter. Their point was that they want the movies to have distinct tones otherwise there's no point. They don't want Iron Man fighting space dragons and people with Magitek rings anymore than they want Captain America fighting demons and rogue Asgardians.
Oh well, what we have is good enough.
With regards to the "Smartest Men in the world" list, I find it difficult to believe that anyone who made such a list would survive for very long if Doctor Doom wasn't in spot number one.
I like Doom. But maybe that's just because I find Good Mister Richards to be just a bit of an asshole, while Doctor Doom is one classy world-conquering machine.
They're both assholes. Dr Doom is just a more charismatic and entertaining asshole.
"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Ever since Civil War - especially but not solely due to Marvel Ultimate Alliance's take on it - Reed kind of creeps me out.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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Agreed. I always just want to punch him in the face. He's almost a Justin Bieber-level of Backpfeifengesicht.
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Do you mind providing a translation?
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'A face in need of slapping/punching'
Oh, new German word! Thanks! Must remember to copy and paste both it and the translation, as it describes David Cameron perfectly. 
Darling.
Oooh man, Guardians is a good time. The actual plot isn't quite that interesting, but it's obvious they want to sell you on the characters, and that's fine. It's a cool group of characters to hang out with.
Yup, Cosmo is in there and the final cameo is... Howard the Duck. It was pretty funny how they did it too.
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Darling.
And it's pretty uncanny how much Thanos really looks like Josh Brolin. I imagine he's mostly CGI, but they nailed his likeness.
edited 31st Jul '14 3:41:05 AM by edvedd
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I too have just seen GOTG. It was a pretty good movie.
My one big gripe is that Gamora and the treatment of her is the worst thing in the movie. She may be up there with Fake!Mandarin as the most infuriatingly bad character in the MCU. I was able to confirm what a friend told me months ago from meeting him personally: James Gunn is a misogynist. Really, I'm surprised by Zoe Saldana for letting all that get on film. Does she really want to be a sci-fi action female lead that badly?
There is a stinger, btw. There may be another one in the US, but the one I saw was... the Collector sitting in his wreck of a base, and he gets licked by Cosmo the dog. A voice is surprised that he let the dog lick him, and it turns out it's... Howard The Duck.
The two big questions to follow are:
- Who is Peter Quill's dad? (and are they sticking with his pure comic identity, or making him more directly tied in with the Inhumans?
- Why is the Collector collecting the stones?
As for the Infinity Stones, they seem pretty interchangeable now. We've had three or four, and they're all just "an energy source." I also hope Loki's scepter isn't one, because I'd have to question why Thanos would just give up one of the at most 3 in his possession.
edited 31st Jul '14 12:37:51 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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Thanks!
Probably going to make him a villain if I had to guess. The Got G really lacks big villains for a sequel.
edited 31st Jul '14 12:38:20 PM by LordofLore
The Hammer Drones actually worked perfectly, along with the War Machine modifications.