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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#67776: Mar 28th 2017 at 11:25:21 PM

Meterologically, winter is December, January, and February. March is the beginning of spring (which is March, April, and May). Summer is June, July, and August. Fall is September, October, and November. Technically, in the Northern Hemisphere, the Vernal equinox (March 19 to 21st) is supposed to be the first day of spring.

edited 29th Mar '17 7:01:49 AM by alliterator

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#67777: Mar 28th 2017 at 11:33:50 PM

the Vernal equinox (May 19 to 21st)

I believe you meant March, not May.

Regardless, I don't believe that Disney's going with the meteorological definition here. Perhaps "Q1 2019" would have been more appropriate, but in any case, the point stands - the labeling appears to have been deliberate (especially with the other years using the same format), and nothing appears to have changed.

edited 28th Mar '17 11:34:55 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#67778: Mar 29th 2017 at 1:14:40 AM

What's the film between The Last Jedi and Infinity War?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#67779: Mar 29th 2017 at 1:16:15 AM

The one that's not Black Panther and A Wrinkle In Time?

I have no idea.

edited 29th Mar '17 1:16:38 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#67781: Mar 29th 2017 at 2:26:34 AM

What's the film between The Last Jedi and Infinity War?

The inevitable Star Wars / MCU crossover?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#67782: Mar 29th 2017 at 3:29:11 AM

Spider-Man might leave the MCU after the sequel to Homecoming.

No.

No. No. No. Nope. No. No! NO! HELL NO! No! No! I refu–! No! No!

Sony is in a very sweet spot regarding Spider-Man and already they're shooting themselves in the foot before Homecoming has even come out!

Dammit Sony, first Popeye, then Medusa, then the Emoji Movie, and now this?!

Just stop it.

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67783: Mar 29th 2017 at 4:11:11 AM

Only acceptable if he's immediately replaced by Miles Morales, who stays in the MCU.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67784: Mar 29th 2017 at 4:17:04 AM

[up][up] Don't worry. Money speaks. Plus, the current plans stink like Rothman, and I am pretty sure that it is only a matter of time before Sony replaces him.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67785: Mar 29th 2017 at 5:37:38 AM

She may have just meant it'd require renegotion. A deal like this between two studios is sort of rare so they probably didn't lock it in for a whole series of movies.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67786: Mar 29th 2017 at 5:56:31 AM

MCU exchange recut the trailer into a more spoiler-free version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0hst1R5PIo

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67787: Mar 29th 2017 at 10:05:03 AM

Current rumor is that Pepper may also be in Homecoming in some capacity.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67788: Mar 29th 2017 at 10:10:50 AM

I am not sure if I put much stock in a source called laineygossip.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#67789: Mar 29th 2017 at 10:18:56 AM

I remember them having rumors for Civil War that turned out to be more or less legit. Though it could just be that they were bullshit written to be vague enough for anything to fit the bill.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67790: Mar 29th 2017 at 10:23:44 AM

They were correct on a few different key points: That the initial conflict would be sparked by a disastrous fight between the Avengers and Crossbones in Africa at the beginning of the movie (which hilariously, I remember several people on here telling me wouldn't be the case), that Black Panther was after Bucky, and that Bucky would be the main source of the conflict between the Avengers. The only point they were really off the mark with was speculation that Crossbones was after Bucky.

edited 29th Mar '17 10:24:14 AM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67791: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:04:16 AM

[up] None of those speculations aren't things I didn't guess myself based on the trailer and promo material.

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#67792: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:15:31 AM

There is a detail of the Civil War, which continues to confuse me.

How strong is it supposed to be Bucky's arm.?

It varies between being weaker than Spiderman, Josef and Black Panther, to be almost at the same level as Iron Man.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#67793: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:16:21 AM

Don't worry. Money speaks.

So basically, you estimate that when Homecoming finally comes out and (hypothetically speaking) becomes the highest-grossing Spider-Man movie since Spider-Man 2, Sony might stop everything they're doing and heavily reconsider what they want to do with the Spider-Man characters?

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#67795: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:21:00 AM

[up][up][up] As strong as the plot demanded

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#67796: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:37:40 AM

I'd hardly call Bucky's arm "almost at the same level as Iron Man". Assuming you're referring to his attempt to tear out the suit's big, glowing single point of failure - seriously, Tony, get on that - he was applying sustained pressure to pry through the panels of the suit.

The thing assembles and disassembles as sets of plates. The armor is made to tank hammer blows, not hold up against forced disassembly. Prying bits and pieces off of it rather than trying to punch through is generally one of the most effective tactics against him.

Tony's best defense against someone on top of him trying to get at the arc reactor is his Uni-Beam, and it more than handled Bucky's robot arm..

edited 29th Mar '17 11:38:03 AM by TobiasDrake

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#67797: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:38:36 AM

I don't remember exactly but the Black Panther rumors might've been before the trailers even came out, though it was commonly speculated since as early as he was announced that Bucky was involved in the death of T'Challa.

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Queen of Good Things, Honest
#67798: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:40:04 AM

End of the day, this movie shows us that while the Winter Soldier may be top dog in the world of espionage and assassination, he barely qualifies as mediocre in the Avengers' ballpark.

He's the king of a hill who got stranded on a much larger mountain.

edited 29th Mar '17 11:41:40 AM by TobiasDrake

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#67799: Mar 29th 2017 at 11:47:55 AM

Wouldn't you?

Of course I would. I absolutely would.

But then again, I'm not Sony.

If I was Sony, I'd give the greenlight for Genndy Tartakovsky's Popeye movie, give The Emoji Movie a big "hell no," (or at least a "give me a reason why we should do this and FYI, "because they're trendy" is NOT a good reason") and get a restraining order on Tom Rothman ASAP.

(Oh, and also strongly suggest Elle Fanning as MCU!Gwen Stacy.) tongue

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#67800: Mar 29th 2017 at 12:03:38 PM

[up][up] Good enough to kick the shit out of most people who are very talented normals. Out of his depth against people wearing what is functionally a flying tank, actual gods, teenagers bitten by radioactive spiders, a guy that can be fifty feet tall, an android powered by an indescribably powerful space rock, pissed off green dudes, and well the list goes on even if two of the people I included were not actually in the movie.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

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