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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47151: Nov 27th 2015 at 1:35:46 AM

[up][up] Well, he had internal injuries after Jessica shot him with a shotgun under his chin, so not everything is unbreakable.

edited 27th Nov '15 1:36:00 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#47152: Nov 27th 2015 at 1:41:08 AM

Okay, 'cause he should be an unbreakable bag of slurry if he's punching concrete walls.

My various fanfics.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#47153: Nov 27th 2015 at 1:47:45 AM

[up]Tony survives hits like this in his suit just fine.

It's comic book logic. I assume that Luke Cage's skin works like a bulletproof armour.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47154: Nov 27th 2015 at 1:49:57 AM

[up][up] I mean, he's still probably more durable than most, but still...

edited 27th Nov '15 1:50:07 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#47156: Nov 27th 2015 at 8:37:32 AM

[up]That would be much funnier if that were the way the show actually operated and not the way people who don't really watch it perceive it.

edited 27th Nov '15 8:37:46 AM by Swanpride

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#47157: Nov 27th 2015 at 8:41:04 AM

It is true that the big name heroes almost never show up, though.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47158: Nov 27th 2015 at 8:53:54 AM

[up][up][up]I posted that in the Agents of Shield thread a week ago.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#47159: Nov 27th 2015 at 9:02:47 AM

[up][up]But they aren't constantly mentioned either. And most of the problems aren't big enough to require their involvement.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47160: Nov 27th 2015 at 9:06:13 AM

Before season 3, that was a good argument. Now it's just a little strange that no one in the current Avengers roster is being informed of the Inhuman kidnappings and killings.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#47161: Nov 27th 2015 at 10:18:04 AM

[up]Who says that they aren't? They happened after Age of Ultron. For all we know, they know.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#47162: Nov 27th 2015 at 10:27:00 AM

[up] Yeah, we haven't had a movie chronologically set after the public became even vaguely aware of the Inhuman crises.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if they at least make an offhand reference to "a recent dramatic rise in the number of enhanced individuals" in Civil War.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#47163: Nov 27th 2015 at 10:28:48 AM

[up] They already did suggest something in this direction in Ant-man.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#47164: Nov 27th 2015 at 10:34:32 AM

The Avengers know SHIELD is around. There was a press conference that the ATCU was dealing with "alien threats." Sounds like those two groups have got it covered.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#47165: Nov 27th 2015 at 1:29:31 PM

I mean, he's still probably more durable than most, but still...

I wasn't paying close enough attention, but what was the specific injury that had rendered him comatose?

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#47166: Nov 27th 2015 at 1:49:32 PM

There's nothing to say there's not correspondence happening off screen.

I might watch through Agents of Shield after Agent Carter, just for 100% completion of the MCU. What's peoples opinions of it at the moment?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#47167: Nov 27th 2015 at 2:02:30 PM

[up]That it is just getting better and better....even the Superhero roundup says that it is currently the best Superhero show on TV, and they were all over Flash last season and very hard on Agent of Shield.

Personally I think that the current season is blowing everything else out of the water (and I say that as someone who binge-watched the first season because, well, it started very weak). If they keep it up until the end, they will have made up for the slow start tenfold, and I will fight everyone who claims that it doesn't deserve to be spoken of with the same reverence which is usually reserved for Agent Carter and the Netflix shows.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#47168: Nov 27th 2015 at 4:24:09 PM

I think the first season was given way more flack than it deserves. It wasn't anything special, and it had some particularly cringeworthy episodes ("The Hub" and "Yes Men" especially tuned me out), but compared to say, Arrow, a show that I have hated pretty much every step of the way for its tone and characterization, I thought it was at least passable for the first nine episodes, after which it got genuinely good, and aroudn episode 16 it became FUCKING HARDCORE!

Season Two was overall on par with the back half of season one, though a few subplots were resolved kind of unsatisfactorily to me. Season Three has been similarly amazing, but the latest attempt at tying all of its subplots together has me very worried, because it's the sort of far-reaching thing that could make or break the series in terms of its connection to the MCU if they don't handle it well.

All in all, definitely worth checking out. I don't necessarily think it's on par with Agent Carter, but it's also nowhere near as bad as the detractors say.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47169: Nov 27th 2015 at 4:26:01 PM

[up] "Yes Men" sounds...insensitive, to say the least, especially after Jessica Jones.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#47170: Nov 27th 2015 at 4:35:41 PM

It's a good episode...if you ignore some internal inconsistencies.

edited 27th Nov '15 4:36:12 PM by alliterator

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47171: Nov 27th 2015 at 4:41:09 PM

I wouldn't call Agents of SHIELD better than the Netflix shows, and I've never seen Agent Carter so I can't comment on that show's quality, but it's really in a better place than it was after season 1.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#47172: Nov 27th 2015 at 4:44:37 PM

The first half of Season One was really So Okay, It's Average. I think the reason it gets so much hate is because the show had a huge amount of Hype Backlash against it when it first premiered.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#47173: Nov 27th 2015 at 5:10:23 PM

@Khfan429: Just out of curiosity, why do you hate Arrow?

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#47174: Nov 27th 2015 at 5:27:18 PM

[up]If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say their hatred probably stems from the pitiful writing quality and excessive melodrama.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#47175: Nov 27th 2015 at 5:42:57 PM

Also Arrow being so grimdark that it resembles a Batman show than anything to do with Green Arrow.


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