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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
Raven Wilder
#46876: Nov 23rd 2015 at 10:03:39 PM

They might go the route of having Iron Fist be an origin story with him only just beginning his martial arts training, so Daredevil can have him beat in experience to make up for his lack of Supernatural Martial Arts.

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46877: Nov 23rd 2015 at 10:26:02 PM

[up]Problem is, Danny was trained since childhood like Matt. So there wont be that big of an experience gap between them, if any.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46878: Nov 23rd 2015 at 10:27:25 PM

They could definitely change the origin or tweak it. That's what they did with Jessica Jones (although you could argue that Jessica's origin wasn't important and was, in fact, a riff on pretty much every other superhero, i.e. accident + toxic chemicals = superpowers).

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46879: Nov 23rd 2015 at 10:32:22 PM

[up]Okay. So a completely inexperienced Danny somehow defeats a DRAGON and gets its chi. Then he trains from there?

edited 23rd Nov '15 10:37:15 PM by nervmeister

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46880: Nov 23rd 2015 at 10:44:37 PM

Or the show takes place before he defeats the dragon and the finale is him defeating the dragon. Much like Daredevil didn't get his red costume and wasn't called Daredevil until the end of the season.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#46881: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:31:35 AM

[up][up]I think people from each heavenly city can already manipulate chi without their Dragon. It's something probably learned at least that's how I see it with Gao. her palm strike was surely superhuman so now what from the iron fist lore can explain it? Then how would it contrast against someone obtains far greater abilities.

I'm really interested if they will create actual dragons or go for something less spectacular.

Also Danny's training involves a lot more extreme hands on stuff like punching rocks. Lei Kung trained him Kun Lun martial arts and by sixteen he was mastered them. He was so good he killed Shou Lao, which no one ever did before. Overall he had a whole other type of training by someone entirely different in a paranormal setting and for different reasons

edited 24th Nov '15 5:07:26 AM by xbimpy

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46882: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:52:47 AM

[up][up]Then the entirety of the 1st season would have to take place in Kun Lun.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46883: Nov 24th 2015 at 5:09:25 AM

I think they will simply work with flashbacks, just like they did with Daredevil and Jessica Jones. But first Luke Cage. I hope Jessica plays a big role in this one.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#46884: Nov 24th 2015 at 5:15:39 AM

i would like to see The Capital Cities of Heaven arc get a spin. its basically mortal kombat

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#46885: Nov 24th 2015 at 7:20:43 AM

Then the entirety of the 1st season would have to take place in Kun Lun.
Once again: they can tweak or change the origin. It doesn't have to follow the comics origin exactly.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#46886: Nov 24th 2015 at 7:44:12 AM

iron fist is so eccentric that it has to be handled carefully. how can they balance the other worldly and our realm? its the show that requires the most amount of world building

edited 24th Nov '15 7:52:10 AM by xbimpy

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#46887: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:06:32 AM

[up]They kind of already started in Daredevil ("Stick"). I expect they'll further ease us into it in certain episodes of the other Netflix shows before Iron Fist drops.

edited 24th Nov '15 8:08:09 AM by nervmeister

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46888: Nov 24th 2015 at 12:55:31 PM

I just watched a new interview with Tom Holland. Did they remove his mole? That is really convenient...I admit, I was wondering if they would be ever be able to sell scenes of Spiderman just revealing his mouth with such a distinctive mark right there.

And I finally got a good look on his hands...perfect!

Oh, and here is a small reminder how cool the females in the MCU are:

edited 24th Nov '15 1:24:49 PM by Swanpride

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#46889: Nov 24th 2015 at 2:14:35 PM

For the uninitiated, Fox just removed Fantastic Four 2 from its release schedule.

Meanwhile, Doctor Strange has been confirmed to be officially starting production. And Mads Mikkelsen has been confirmed to appear.

Remembering some earlier fan talk regarding wanting to see Mads as an MCU version of Doctor Doom, the news that Fant4stic 2 has evidently been given the axe, and noticing how they didn't really establish who Mads is playing in Doctor Strange, it just hit me a few minutes ago.

What if Doctor Strange is gonna have an Early-Bird Cameo of MCU!Doctor Doom before he became Doom and when he was still Victor Von Doom?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46890: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:18:31 PM

There are also rumors that we get something civil war related soon....

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#46891: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:24:14 PM

[up] What do you mean? Like we'll get an allusion to the F4 in Civil War?

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#46892: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:25:37 PM

No, the Civil War trailer is coming soon, I think.

edited 24th Nov '15 3:26:14 PM by higherbrainpattern

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46893: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:42:37 PM

RDJ and Chris Evans will by on Jimmy Kimmel.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46894: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:50:07 PM

Hopefully it's the real trailer and not just a teaser. My only worry is when they did GOTG on Kimmel they made sure to specifically announce beforehand that that's what was gonna happen.

What if Doctor Strange is gonna have an Early-Bird Cameo of MCU!Doctor Doom before he became Doom and when he was still Victor Von Doom?

There is so little chance of that being the case that it doesn't even bear thinking about.

edited 24th Nov '15 3:51:02 PM by comicwriter

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46895: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:53:55 PM

Also James Gunn unsurprisingly debunked the Captain Mar-Vell rumor.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46896: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:54:45 PM

I doubt it will be the trailer. But perhaps the teaser for the teaser. After all, we can't have simply a trailer nowadays, we first need to announce that there will be a teaser, than we are allowed to watch the teaser and then we get trailer for the upcoming trailer.

[up]I am so proud that nobody even bothered to post it here. Bit pile of nonsense from a very questionable source.

edited 24th Nov '15 3:55:28 PM by Swanpride

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#46898: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:12:05 PM

[up]Oh, Starlord just got another father...I think it is already father number 3? Either way, the source was Umberto, so no reason to get worked up over it.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#46899: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:31:23 PM

For the uninitiated, Fox just removed Fantastic Four 2 from its release schedule.

Geez, what a surprise. Can they give the right back to Marvel, already?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#46900: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:47:41 PM

[up][up]It's almost as funny as when he said he had the scoop about who was playing Han Solo in the new Star Wars prequel and then the writers retweeted him on Twitter to say they hadn't even started casting yet.


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