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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31051: Apr 20th 2015 at 1:40:33 PM

[up]Well, for a perfect movie all elements have to come together. It's a group project after all, even if the director usually has the responsibility. But I think if a director works with a good script, it's pretty hard to totally ruin the movie. If the script is bad though, even the best director will struggle to salvage it. Naturally it's a symbiotic relationship, a director can always say that he doesn't like a scene and demand a rewrite.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31052: Apr 20th 2015 at 1:48:30 PM

Based on what I can tell of interviews the writers seem to have the most influence on the film after the director and the producer. Even if the movie looks bad, it can still be memorable with a strong plot, characters, and quotes. Likewise no matter how nice the movie looks, sounds, and feels a weak script can send the whole thing down the drain.

edited 20th Apr '15 1:50:08 PM by AlleyOop

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#31053: Apr 20th 2015 at 1:57:25 PM

[up] Editors are the most important.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#31054: Apr 20th 2015 at 5:08:48 PM

It's a bit weird to not want to watch Daredevil simply because it's not going to be crossing over with the movies. You can't watch a good show for its own merits?

I admit it's a bit hypocritical since I've watched Arrow and enjoyed it, but I never cared for Daredevil - which might be folly, since I didn't like Green Arrow either - all that said, I have no interest in binge-watching it at the moment, and the only connection to the MCU I've skimmed are rumors surrounding Marvel contracts.

[down] And that, I guess.

Objectively, it also is a part of the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe by virtue of its main plot being directly connected to the Battle of New York in the avengers.

How so?

edited 20th Apr '15 5:13:38 PM by Soble

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#31055: Apr 20th 2015 at 5:11:28 PM

[up]The entire reason Hell's Kitchen is an easily-exploited shambles is because the Chitauri wrecked it in The Avengers.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#31056: Apr 20th 2015 at 5:15:06 PM

Though oddly enough, no one ever used the phrase "alien invasion".

edited 20th Apr '15 5:15:20 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#31057: Apr 20th 2015 at 5:35:30 PM

A few folks I follow on Twitter who live in New York wondered why the Chitauri attack would have any bearing on Hell's Kitchen, since the attack was confined to Grand Central and HK is on the other side of Manhattan. They also joked they were glad that it must have destroyed the Javits Center.

Agents of SHIELD spinoff to star Lance and Mockingbird

edited 20th Apr '15 5:36:34 PM by Tuckerscreator

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31058: Apr 20th 2015 at 5:38:03 PM

...Uh, well that's certainly something.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31060: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:09:49 PM

Hawkingbird fans are gonna be mad. Also what's so bad about Lance? He seems alright to me.

I doubt this spinoff has enough steam to do more than what Agent Carter did though. Also this isn't the same spinoff they were talking about that has John Ridley is it? I see no mention of his name anywhere.

edited 20th Apr '15 6:21:29 PM by AlleyOop

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#31061: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:13:07 PM

Seems like there's a bit of a flap about them excluding Black Widow from the merchandise.

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DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#31062: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:14:56 PM

Huh. That's...cool, I guess. Maybe. Can't say I'm overly enthused.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31063: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:17:36 PM

[up][up][up]Then they're really gonna hate Age of Ultron according to some rumors.

Feige talks a bit about the Inhumans:

Inhumans needs a director of course but then so does Black Panther and Captain Marvel — though word is Marvel is hoping to set a female film-maker to that one. Feige was also asked to clarify if a rumored Inhumans logline ("a group of people that are given powers only to discover they might be part of an alien race”) was true or not, to which he responded: “Well I’d say that’s relatively fair, but that’s not official. I’ve never seen that as an official logline.”

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31064: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:30:28 PM

[up] According to said rumors the film is going to sink Clintasha so hard it'll sitting at the bottom of the Mariana trench, although since both sides lose to what's essentially a Crack Pairing at least they won't be at each other's throats anymore. Honestly as someone who doesn't really care about serious shipping let alone for these two I can empathize with their rage. Something about the way Brucetasha seems to be handled rubs me the wrong way, although Hawkeye/new lady actually seems kind of cute and can easily be justified as a case of going with the Ultimates version.

[up][up][up]How? I thought they just released a figure of her recently, and she's probably getting more than at least Hawkeye.

edited 20th Apr '15 6:38:20 PM by AlleyOop

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#31065: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:32:50 PM

That pairing was never really based in anything concrete, so.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31066: Apr 20th 2015 at 6:36:58 PM

[up]I'd say the Ship Tease behind it was still palpable enough to warrant the fandom it did, although it annoys me when the fans treat it as undeniable canon. I thought they were a thing too first time I saw the original film, and so did a lot of professional critics (then again some reviewers thought Cap and Widow were definitely involved in TWS which is so wrong it's hilarious).

edited 20th Apr '15 6:37:33 PM by AlleyOop

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#31067: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:07:11 PM

Wait, so if Whedon's stepping down from the Marvel movies now, does that mean we can finally get that sequel to Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31068: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:28:22 PM

Yes! No more Lance!
Wait, what do you have against Lance?

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DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#31069: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:28:27 PM

[up][up]YES PLEASE

edited 20th Apr '15 8:28:37 PM by DeathsApprentice

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#31071: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:45:27 PM

I would rather have a "The Bobbi Morse and Jessica Drew Show!"

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31072: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:46:12 PM

[up]x2 Fair enough.

[up] Holy shit.

Holy shit I want that. Why didn't they do that?

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#31073: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:48:04 PM

Bland British guy can still die saving Jessica from Hydra. There is hope.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31074: Apr 20th 2015 at 8:50:20 PM

Personally I like lance, because I have a weakness for smarmy assholes, so I wouldn't want him to die, but I would totally take him being replaced.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#31075: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:13:57 PM

[up][up][up]Because now, we can get the Jessica Jones&Hellcat show, which ought to be awesome on its' own.

edited 20th Apr '15 9:14:08 PM by kkhohoho


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