Love, Sex, Society n' Stuff

Eff love, sex solves way more problems.

As I said, Rott, romance and love are what you want them to be. If all participants believe they're in a romantic relationship, then by definition, they are. It's a thing of the mind.

"War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left." "Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future."

If idealism or dualism is true, ideas have objective reality.

“Love is the eternal law whereby the universe was created and is ruled.” — St. Bernard

What evidence do you have that idealism or dualism are true, and what further evidence do you have to suggest that it's a worthwhile practice not to believe other people when they say they are in love with someone? It's as ridiculous as refusing to believe someone when they say blue is their favorite color, or when they say they like pizza.

edited 8th Aug '11 7:22:11 PM by OnTheOtherHandle

"War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left." "Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future."

I feel a stupid argument incoming, duck and cover!

All you need is sex

All you need is sex

All you need is sex, sex

Sex is all you need

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.

...Congratulations, Barkey, I forgot what I was going to say in my long and tedious argument with Rott about the nature of love. All I need is sex, apparently. That makes things simpler!

"War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left." "Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future."

Philia, eros, and storge are stupidly restrictive anyways. Plenty of relationships that could be construed as romantic don't fit into any of the three (or agape, for that matter.)

edited 8th Aug '11 10:18:00 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful

Well I'd hope zero romantic relationships would fall under storge.

“Love is the eternal law whereby the universe was created and is ruled.” — St. Bernard

Well actually,

(From The Other Wiki.) Also, storge is "familial love", and being married means you have a familial relationship with each other. Even though I think having only four types of love is pretty restrictive, I have to say that many long-married couples fit storge better than eros.

"War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left." "Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future."

Quick, to the Sex Cave!

Christ, does that include love of country? Oh noes, a real life Cargo Ship. Save me, save MEE!!

I am now known as Flyboy.

Please don't fuck a rolled up flag with a bunch of KY in it.

Squick... 0_o

I am now known as Flyboy.

I know some of us like older women, but my cut off is 50 years.

Hey now, just because a woman is old doesn't mean she can't be hot. The only barriers I acknowledge are familial relationships and hotness or lack thereof. I don't care if she's your grandma, because, after all, Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have! is a trope...

I am now known as Flyboy.

Wait, I meant 60; Helen Mirren is my special case.

Good call, though she's in the mid-60s.

I also nominate Zoe Wanamaker.

Enjoy the Inferno...

Take it to the fetishes guys.

I have to admit - I'm a bit of a prude. Saving myself for that special someone before marriage ideally. And in light of the fact that for a point in my life I fell in and out of love more often than most people take out the trash, I think that was for me a wise decision to take.

Seriously, though, it's kind of funny - one part of society tells you to save it for a committed relationship, preferably marriage, but then another part tells you that you have to have sex, or you're not a Real Man (TM). Personally, I find the latter expectation distressing - women are equals to men, not the sexual equivalent of 1939 Poland.

But I agree.

edited 9th Aug '11 8:50:18 PM by Enzeru

I would be more concerned if society would pressure us to a single direction. Getting mixed messages tells me that there's more than one ideal way to handle one's sexuality/be a (wo)man etc. And in the end of the day we have to think and choose ourselves what we want to do and what kind of people we want to be.

Gives a whole new meaning to "Divide and Conquer".

I think most tropers have/would agree, that an emotional connection to the person you're with makes it far better than Random Hookup X. There's nothing wrong with having sex - there's also nothing wrong with not having sex.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

Blarg this was a litle emo even for me. Besides, we made up. :P

edited 14th Aug '11 3:27:00 PM by lee4hmz

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True, but the culture also in many ways objectifies women as things to be conquered, rather than as people who one forms intimate relationships with.