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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#26: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:39:57 PM

Stereotypes, for better or worse, are tropes.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#27: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:57:22 PM

It's not "No trope is a stereotype". It's "Not all Stereotypes are tropes". Same for cliches. Just because it's a cliche, doesn't mean it is automatically a trope. Just because it is a trope doesn't mean that it can't also be a cliche.

They're intersecting sets, not wholly-contained subsets.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#29: Oct 13th 2011 at 6:21:08 PM

I'm going to cut the entire Real Life section. It is nothing more that "Look, look, here is an article about warm cuddly cute reptiles!"

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#30: Oct 13th 2011 at 6:36:04 PM

Go for it.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#31: Oct 13th 2011 at 6:39:03 PM

What about cutting all the "aversions" and "subversions" that are nothing more that "This character is reptilian, but not evil"?

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#32: Oct 13th 2011 at 6:41:21 PM

Is this a common enough trope anywhere that aversions/subversions are worth noting?

If not (which I strongly suspect is the case), cut away.

Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#33: Oct 13th 2011 at 6:44:26 PM

Some of these are listing turtles displayed positively as aversions or subversion. Turtles don't even have that bad of a reputation, compared to things such as snakes and crocodiles. If anything, they are one of the more popularly positively portrayed reptiles.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#35: Oct 13th 2011 at 6:58:02 PM

True subversion can stay, "Aversions" and aversions that are labeled as subversions should go.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#36: Oct 13th 2011 at 7:12:10 PM

33 uses of the word "averted" before I start snipping. We might as well list every black character that is not a Magical Negro.

If there are any examples of poisonous snakes or crocs being portrayed positively, I might keep them. But turtles, garden snakes, chameleons and the like? Those are generally regard as harmless.

I'm also moving some of the Wall of Text in the description to the Analysis page, cutting the first person, and a few other things.

edited 13th Oct '11 7:35:43 PM by Auxdarastrix

Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#37: Dec 10th 2011 at 7:16:17 AM

This has been reasonably well scrubbed. I don't think we need to do anything more here. I'm calling to close this.

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