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Grobi Since: Sep, 2010
#1: Jul 19th 2011 at 3:28:59 AM

Link to Comicbook.Superman

This is a mess. TWO pages about the same subject. Indexing evenly split between them. This needs to be merged (read: one of them should be turned into a redirect), BUT:

  • Which one should stay? I'd say Comicbook.Superman - but I'm not sure; Main.Batman isn't a redirect either, but Comicbook.Batman is; I'm a bit confused here.

  • Both pages are not exactly the same; the descriptions are a bit different, the examples are not quite the same - I know nothing about the Superman-mythos, so I don't really know which are the correct ones - and which not.

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#2: Jul 19th 2011 at 7:50:14 AM

I've thought the same thing pretty much. The comic book character Superman is almost a completely different animal than Superman as portrayed in other media. However, I think a merger would be a good idea.

Personally, I'd suggest making the "Main" page the real one. Sure, Superman has origins as a comic book hero, but he's evolved far, far beyond that. (The same is true of Batman and Spider-man now.)

So basically, we need to have our own Crisis On Infinite Tropes merger.

edited 19th Jul '11 7:51:41 AM by KingZeal

DonaldthePotholer from Miami's In-State Rival Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#3: Jul 19th 2011 at 9:39:04 AM

Are there any Tropes that are specific to Comic Book Superman, as opposed to the Movies, (and Superman Returns), Lois And Clark, Smallville, 60's-70's era animation, and 90's animation and Justice League versions? (Or to specific eras therein?)

If so, use the Main page EDIT as a Disambiguation between Media/Works and to list that apply to a majority of adaptations [/Edit], and use the Comic Book page as a storage site for Comic-Specific Tropes.

EDIT 2: As to how the Trope list would work: "The Tropes Listed on this page would apply to multiple adaptations spanning at least two different forms of media. For Tropes that apply only to a single work or to multiple works within the same medium, please refer to the appropriate sub-/work page."

EDIT 3: As for the description: Cut the Main's description to The First 2 and Last 3 Paragraphs, and indicate that the full backstory is in the Comicbook Sub Page. Also, have the main comics list only in the Comicbook page, but keep Crossover comic appearances listed on the Main (along with the other works).

edited 19th Jul '11 9:53:10 AM by DonaldthePotholer

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#4: Jul 19th 2011 at 10:21:30 AM

re there any Tropes that are specific to Comic Book Superman, as opposed to the Movies, (and Superman Returns), Lois and Clark, Smallville, 60's-70's era animation, and 90's animation and Justice League versions? (Or to specific eras therein?)

Back from the Dead is the most obvious.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Jul 19th 2011 at 7:13:59 PM

My preference, with this and all comicbook pages, is to turn the Main into a Broad Strokes about the character and turn the Comicbook.Superman page into an index of arcs/subseries and a timeline with tropes.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Jul 20th 2011 at 4:12:07 PM

I support Deboss's plan here. I think that whatever you decide to do, a main Superman page should remain since I am pretty sure that people will still use Superman when referring to him and the works that feature him.

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