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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#1: Jul 16th 2011 at 3:40:03 PM

I'll take Guess That Trope for $400, Alex....

The title is not Exactly What It Says on the Tin, but it's not far off, either.

What is, "a story setup where the protagonist arrives in a setting and slowly uncovers whatever kind of disaster happened there?"

So a few things, one being a quick misuse check because we don't want people linking to the phrase without the trope actually occuring.

The other is to tweak the description, which currently implies that this is exclusive to the Video Games media. Sure, the mere format of video games lends itself well to player-driven exploration and discovery, but this is far from being media-exclusive.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#3: Nov 15th 2011 at 2:35:08 PM

Here is what I found in a brief check of some of the wicks. When checking over them I was under the impression that the trope was about a protagonist arriving somewhere after something bad happened and trying to figure out what that event was and/or why it occurred.

Correct/Seems to be Correct

  • Bonesaw: The Game
  • Hype: The Time Quest
  • Film/Alien
  • Alien Breed
  • Aliens Colonial Marines
  • Alien Swarm
  • Alien Vs Predator
  • Alone In The Dark
  • Alpha Prime
  • Alter AILA
  • Anachronic Order
  • Apocalyptic Log
  • Ascend To A Higher Plane Of Existence
  • At The Mountains Of Madness
  • Automobile Opening
  • Back From The Brink
  • BA In Distress
  • Barrier Maiden
  • Bionicle
  • Videogame/Bio Shock Infinite
  • Blood Rites
  • Bring News Back
  • But What About The Astronauts
  • Cold Fear
  • Colony Drop
  • Cosy Catastrophe
  • Cursed Mountain
  • Dead Space
  • Dead Space 2
  • Characters/Dead Space 2
  • Disproportionate Retribution
  • Distress Ball
  • Distress Call
  • Recap/Doctor Who NSS 4 E 8 Silence In The Library
  • Dual World Gameplay
  • Empire From The Ashes
  • Video Game/Eternal Darkness

No Context/Unclear

  • 1213
  • Scurge: Hive
  • Aetheria Epics
  • Alien Shooter
  • Blue Stinger
  • WMG/Call Of Duty
  • Echo Night

Misuse

  • No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle (things happened earlier, but there is not really a discovery process)
  • America Wins The War (talking about World War II)
  • Characters/Armored Core All As One (misuse for generally being late)
  • Chincha Islands War (misuse for generally being late)
  • Decade (misuse for generally being late)
  • Diabolus Ex Machina (talks about surviving the Late to the Party so is probably misuse)

Basically, of the examples I looked at, there is a misuse rate of 6/50 or 12.0%, assuming all of the examples without context are good examples. Excluding the examples without context, there is a misuse rate of 6/43 or 13.9%.

edited 15th Nov '11 2:35:33 PM by LouieW

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#4: Nov 15th 2011 at 4:02:35 PM

It may be worth separating "late in general" as its own heading, "misuse as a Stock Phrase".

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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#5: Jan 31st 2012 at 2:09:45 PM

Bump. Are we going to do anything here or what? There are more tropes that need repair, and TRS has been at 501 for months now. Let's get a move on.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#6: Feb 1st 2012 at 10:45:56 AM

Sorry for the wait, there is now a single proposition crowner for this trope here.

Late to the Party found in: 166 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 102 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#7: Feb 2nd 2012 at 2:18:47 PM

On one hand, misuse is low. On the other, the name could be misleading. Late to the Tragedy sounds better, as a redirect if nothing else.

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AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#8: Feb 15th 2012 at 2:40:31 PM

Currently 11 yeas to 4 nays. Bumping to be sure we've got consensus here.

I didn't write any of that.
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place (Old Master) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Feb 29th 2012 at 8:18:35 AM

I've created an alt-titles crowner here with the suggestion above. Feel free to add other proposals.

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#11: Feb 29th 2012 at 8:23:54 AM

Crowner hooked.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#12: Feb 29th 2012 at 8:36:48 AM

The trope is "showing up in an area where some sort of disaster has occurred and having to figure out what happened", right? So Post Disaster Arrival, Post Disaster Investigation, or Post Disaster Exploration?

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#13: Mar 13th 2012 at 12:00:22 PM

Man, this needs more votes.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#14: Apr 13th 2012 at 4:52:29 AM

Bumping for votes.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#15: Apr 24th 2012 at 1:22:33 PM

Bumping one last time for votes. Seven is a bit low to call.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#16: May 25th 2012 at 1:33:02 PM

Calling crowner in favor of renaming to Late to the Tragedy.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#17: Jul 11th 2012 at 9:07:44 AM

We have consensus to rename here.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#18: Jul 11th 2012 at 10:30:55 AM

On it.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#19: Jul 11th 2012 at 2:24:49 PM

Ok, name changed, discussion moved, change noted on the Renamed Tropes and on the FAQ thread, and all wicks fixed or removed.

We went from 178 wicks to 147, even though I was fairly generous in allowing borderline cases, so that was just under 20% misuse.

Unless I've forgotten something, I think we're done here.

eta: misuse was much heavier in the second half of the alphabet—probably because of an earlier, incomplete cleanup attempt. This is why misuse checks shouldn't be done with just A-D. :)

edited 11th Jul '12 2:36:06 PM by Xtifr

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AlternativeTitles: LateToTheParty
29th Feb '12 8:17:03 AM

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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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