DEATH BATTLE

As in post-Crisis pre-Flashpoint.

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So basically the Superman from the first Death Battle with him. Does he still have the Super Flare and Super Radar abilities the New 52 Superman did, and how did the latter even die in the first place?

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No, Old 52 Superman has his regular powers. I'm guessing New 52 Superman died because of Kryptonite poisoning/Apokylptian firepits/a whole bunch of bullshit.

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So he doesn't have the vibration based powers, the Torquasm styles, or the Theta Vision thing, he just has the standard abilities that every incarnation of Superman starts with? What happened with the whole God of Strength thing then?

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Well the Torquasm stuff was from the Old 52, so I'm guessing he still has that. He's literally the Superman from before the reboot. As for the God of Strength stuff... I really don't know. Someone who's better at comics than me, help!

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New!52 Superman died fighting Doomsday. Pre-Flashpoint Superman and Lois were talking about how history was repeating itself even with the missing time and wondered aloud if the new-52 Superman would come back like he did. So the current Superman is literally the Superman from the first Death Battle.

edited 28th May '16 10:31:27 PM by Zeromaeus

Anyway...apparently according the Grant Morrison, the Earth Q that All Star Superman created as one of his Twelve Super-Challenges is actually "our" Earth; All Star Superman is technically our "God" then.

Wait, but he survived against Doomsday the first time; when he tore Doomsday in half and got that Virus that turned him into a Doomsday clone, that was supposed to be the second time he had fought him. How in God's name does that make any sense at all?

edited 28th May '16 10:33:01 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

So point of rebooting DC verse was to make it easier for newcomers to get in. But now we need guide for reboots themselves.

Jolly good job, DC!

edited 29th May '16 7:37:14 AM by Prany

No that was the last one. The new "not-a-reboot" isn't about making it easier(if it was about that we wouldn't have multiple Flashes, Green Lanterns, Superpeople, Robins or Beetles running around saving the world and universe with smiles on their faces) but about bringing legacy, love and hope back.

I thought it was the need for diversity.

Or maybe a response to the negativity around Diana/Clark.

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So, what's the consensus on who will win in the Joker/Sweet Tooth fight? Because I think the odds are stacked a little bit in Sweet Tooth's favor.

It's been 3000 years…

Joker has gas that Sweet Tooth isn't immune to and a healing factor.

Sweet Tooth has a mech that Joker can do little about.

Oh dang. They both have gangs too, I forgot about the new Twisted Metal. Both fighters have something the other can't do much against. Thematic and 50-50.

edited 29th May '16 2:38:12 PM by Soble

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Sweet Tooth's got Joker way outclassed in firepower, no doubt. I'd give it to a truck with miniguns AND rocket launchers over someone who, when not using joke-themed weaponry, tends towards rocket launchers, pistols and shotguns that have to be manually reloaded the same as their real-world counterparts.

Not to mention when it comes to their beefed-up forms, Sweet Bot is bigger and stronger than Titan Joker with the added bonus of flight and still having access to explosives.
Remember, Titan Joker was knocked out with Explosive Gel, which is specifically designed to be non-lethal. I doubt he'd be able to tank a rocket to the face.

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It's not the explosive gel that knocked out Titan Joker IIRC. It merely stunned him for a few seconds, while his knock-out happened because Batman blew up the floor under him so that he'd fall all the way down to the concrete floor quite a distance below.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Provided the fight is allowed to escalate to that point.

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I'm going to have to call bullsh't on the Arkham games for that. Batman can lay it in front of a goon and knock them uncosncious, true, but he can also apply that gel to concrete walls and blast them to bits, as well as stand right in front of it and shrug the blast off, and even put it on his hand for an explosive punch.

Also (2) My memory's a bit shaky, but skipping to the end here, Batman had already punched Joker a number of times, caused him to fall onto an electric generator of some sort, and finally knocked him out with an explosive punch.

edited 29th May '16 3:37:54 PM by Soble

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I'm going to assume that he's using some kind of specially-made explosive that is primarily concussive in nature, and somehow the concussive waves are designed to typically do non-lethal/non-crippling damage to the organic flesh of your average well-built human (those thugs quite probably incurred bone fractures from those experiences) while also being highly destructive to non-organic/inanimate matter (perhaps because flesh is not brittle like concrete is?).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Said gel can also be planted on top of a ladder and launch a goon several stories down a room... and they're still breathing after they've hit solid concrete. I'm not sure if this is video game logic or Batman logic we're running with here, but it's something special.

edited 29th May '16 3:59:53 PM by NesClassic

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Obviously, Batman has a Stand that grants immortality to everyone around him.

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That... would actually explain a lot.

I'm no physicist, but the force needed to knock out/destroy a concrete wall is lesser than the amount it'd take to blast a human body apart (the questions you don't ask in school)? Or there actually is an explosive that could knock down a wall but not shred a body apart?

edited 29th May '16 5:26:52 PM by Soble

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Note that in the games, the explosive gel only works on walls that are weakened and cracked and full of holes. It's not like it cracks solid concrete.

edited 30th May '16 6:40:33 AM by CobraPrime

And here's Sweet Tooth's preview for sponsors

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So, to the sponsors in here: is there anything in Sweet Tooth's video that particularly stands out? Anything particularly weird that could be used as a "curveball" in the fight?

Just a bit of backstory

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Or more specifically, the 2012 origin (since Marcus was originally a homeless guy [who still has family] IIRC). Though I'm sure it'll include the other continuities as well.

edited 30th May '16 12:03:47 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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