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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#84376: Apr 15th 2024 at 2:33:17 AM

I've decided to go back through Death Battle's earlier seasons and some of the Death Battle casts.

  • I'll be honest - never having played a single Metroid before, but skimmed a lot of the Wiki and playthroughs, I've never heard of Samus actually receiving payment for any of her jobs.
  • Boomstick's voice changed over the course of the series. He's got less of a redneck-sounding voice. Sounds more like a guy talking crap at the back of the school bus.
  • The writing of the jokes was different too. "Too bad Samus's armor makes her look like a dude."
  • The episode was almost seven minutes long, received sponsorship from Netflix, and came out in 2010.
  • The setup is that the Slave 1 blasted Samus's ship and she crashed on a random planet. I guess Boba had a contract on Samus? And oh, the first Death Battle had a life meter for both combatants. The animation was pretty basic too, at least compared to what we would get in later seasons.
  • The finishing blow was Samus freezing Boba with her Ice Beam and blasting him with her arm cannon. Her superior tech and skill, as well as her Chozo DNA giving her superior athleticism, gave her the win.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
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Inheritor of the Wing
#84377: Apr 15th 2024 at 2:52:45 AM

Samus being a bounty hunter is something of an Informed Attribute since... well, she never hunts bounties and she's more like a mercenary or a gun-for-hire. Across every game, she's never once hunted a bounty but has undertook countless investigation and rescue missions.[lol]

I think Dread is the first game that directly touches on her payment, since Adam wryly warns that they're being undercompensated for how dangerous a purported X-Parasite outbreak would be.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#84378: Apr 15th 2024 at 2:55:52 AM

    Shang Tsung vs Akuma (Match #2) to the TMNT Battle Royal (Match #6) 

  • Shang Tsung vs Akuma. The connection here is that they're both final bosses of the two most well-known fighting game franchises of the time - Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. Coincidentally both had secret fighters, but in MK's case it was Reptile, not Shang Tsung. Akuma and Shang Tsung both manipulate the soul too.
  • Honestly feel they should have just remade this fight instead of feeding Akuma to Shao Kahn in a later season.
  • Interesting how Death Battle started with a focus on video game-based battles and gradually shifted to being more comic book-focused.
  • Canon: Boomstick's first child is going to be named "Instant Hell Murder."
  • No mention of TNT or 13,000 walls of chinas or 30 little boys to the face. I wonder when they started doing analysis like that. Plus this was back in the day before universe-level, mountain-level, etc were popular terms.
  • I never realized how much Shang Tsung snapping Liu Kang's neck squick-ed me out.
  • Wow, an advertisement for Game Fly? Haven't heard that name in a while. I wonder if they're still in business.
  • FIGHT!
  • It was always weird how Shang Tsung can only absorb your soul once you're defeated, but can also mimic you mid-fight by siphoning off what I presume to be a "tiny" piece of your soul.
  • The finishing blow came after Shang Tsung lost trying to imitate Akuma, and Akuma reacted by performing a Shun Goku Satsu on him. Akuma's skills as a fighter and Shang Tsung's record of losing to Liu Kang cost him the match.
  • Dang. We never did get a Wonder Woman vs Sailor Moon Death Battle.

  • Wonder Woman fighting Rogue. Both attractive superheroines from rival comic book companies... that's it.
  • Boomstick was a lot hornier back in the day.
  • We never did get a proper match for Rogue, did we.
  • Oof, Boomstick implied he'd do things to Ms Marvel when she was unconscious. Hm. K.
  • Wonder Woman and her "super boobies." Hm. K.
  • I kind of miss Rogue's 90's hair?
  • Wonder Woman got 3 fights and we never got another fight for Rogue.
  • This episode is going to be triggering for some because of Boomstick's dialogue, I reckon.
  • A Go Daddy ad time this time? Are they still around? Man these episodes are a time capsule.
  • FIGHT!
  • This time the fight starts because Rogue is flying around and then Diana just jumps her. That's it.
  • Wow, the animation is so bad but at least they were trying?
  • The finishing blow is Rogue leaping and French-kissing Diana. Diana's powers were godly but Rogue has stolen similar abilities before "so there's no reason to assume she couldn't this time [especially because Diana has so much skin to grab onto].
  • Well I have to assume the logic we have nowadays is that Diana would be much too fast for Rogue to be able to grab her at all. It's funny seeing how different and amateurish the analysis was. I mean, all VS battle analysis is amateur work, but it shows here.

  • Death Battle's magnum opus. Never got better than this. Two enemies from the same franchise. I suppose if you factored in Paper Mario iterations of them like Koops or Goombella this could be a genuine battle?
  • Goombas were oppressed and joined Bowser willingly? That's some Mario lore I didn't know previously. Also isn't goomba an offensive slang for Italians? I would assume not or Nintendo would be in deep for that by now, but I swear I've heard it referenced that way.
  • Why does an army ruled by a dragon turtle mostly using angry mushrooms as grunts get to be named after the cowardly turtle minions who do jack and all? #Goomba Rights
  • Audible ad this time. Well they're still around... the app looks way different though.
  • FIGHT!
  • On the one hand the animation is still pretty basic, and the Koopa shouldn't be able to leave his shell once he goes in,, and the Goomba and Koopa are fighting through a death maze probably designed for Mario.
  • The finishing blow was Goomba trying to manipulate Koopa into the lava, but accidentally KO-ing himself.
  • They really wanted you to pay attention to the next time. They even put a little note up during the replay to tell you to find out who the next fight was.
  • You have to wonder who would actually win some of these fights now with current research standards?

  • Capcom's two wrestling powerhouses. Zangief from Street Fighter and Haggar from Final Fight.
  • Haggar wrestles bullsharks as a form of training and Zangief wrestles Usurri brown bears.
  • Oh hey we got what I think was a custom animation as a mayoral election ad for Mike Haggar.
  • ...how did Street Fighter handle Zangief and his loyalty to Vladimir Putin? Would a Mr Mc Mahon vs Vladimir Putin Death Battle be in bad taste?
  • Wow the Netflix ad with the screenshot of the site at the time - I forgot Netflix's page used to look like that.
  • FIGHT
  • The fight this time starts because Zangief took off his cape and Haggar happened to be nearby. That's it.
  • We saw a meme (the pedobear, the freaking PEDOBEAR), a Dragon Ball, and Princess Peach go flying out of that building Zangief and Haggar were fighting in. Yeah I think Haggar just lost his bid for reelection.
  • The finishing blow was the two of them piledriving each other from the fifth floor of a building. Zangief survived. Zangief is just bigger and tougher.

  • The first "weird" fight with a battle royal between 4 siblings.
  • They really dislike Michelangelo.
  • Haven't heard the word "retard" in years. It barely functions as an insult anymore.
  • If I had to remake this episode - make the turtles fight and kill one another, but they "de-rez" like video game characters. Then at the end it turns out Donatello has them hooked up to a VR machine as a form of training.
  • FIGHT and... damn. Leo decapitated Mikey in seconds.
  • The finishing blows were that, Raph knifing Donatello to death, and Leonardo splitting Raph's chin with his sword.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:51:47 PM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#84379: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:23:30 AM

I hope Michelangelo gets another shot one of these days. Considering the Last Ronin is getting a movie adaptation, that could be his shot.

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Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#84380: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:40:04 AM

The Last Ronin vs Old Man Logan is a popular matchup so that’s probably his best shot.

ToadTV Since: Oct, 2019
#84381: Apr 15th 2024 at 7:49:10 AM

I think they’ve mentioned interest in Michelangelo VS Jay Walker, and have expressed an interest in using that series since they did a cast on that exact match.

Did you know Ninjago has 15 seasons? I didn’t know it has 15 seasons. And a sequel series that already has 2 seasons. What happened when I stopped paying attention to it?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Mrbda241 Spectator Since: Feb, 2016
Spectator
#84383: Apr 15th 2024 at 11:29:09 AM

So May 15th will be the last day of the Rooster Teeth Website and App.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#84384: Apr 15th 2024 at 11:52:27 AM

Not really up on TMNT stuff, but isn't is canon that Leonardo is the best fighter of the 4 right now but Michaelangelo has the potential to be the best?

#IceBearForPresident
Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#84385: Apr 15th 2024 at 1:34:27 PM

The best fighter is usually Leo or Raph depending on the continuity, Mikey has some moments where he comes out on top, and Donnie never wins because he's more of the brains of the operation.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Apr 15th 2024 at 4:34:55 AM

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Mrbda241 Spectator Since: Feb, 2016
Spectator
#84386: Apr 15th 2024 at 1:45:23 PM

Best Potential doesn't really mean the best now. Mikey has always been portrayed as the "Slacker" and would definitely be more powerful if he put in the same efforts as his brothers. If we were to take Mikey at his peak, he definitely would pose a challenge, but again, Leo or Raph are usually the two who are always at the top of their game.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84387: Apr 15th 2024 at 2:13:31 PM

Pretty much.

Leo is the best because he trains the hardest, with Raph behind him.

Mikey has the most raw talent, and if he trained as hard as Leo or even Raph did, he'd blow past them utterly (remember, he dual wields Nunchuks).

But until he does bother to put in that level of training, potential is all he has.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#84388: Apr 15th 2024 at 2:40:10 PM

That's kinda what I mean. Leo is the best (most of the time ) because of his discipline and dedication. Mikey canonically could be best if he had that same determination, but he doesn't do he isn't.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84389: Apr 15th 2024 at 2:43:13 PM

I think I need to find a streaming service where I can watch Columbo now. This sounds entertaining.

Definitely check it out if you can. It's arguably the best "how to catch 'em" style detective series ever made.

Yeah, that's the catch with Versus analysis. It inherently distorts characters beyond recognition.

But not doing all of that stuff isn't, like, fixing Versus Debate. It's not doing Versus Debate. If you want to just write a fanfic then go write a fanfic.

I'd argue that, if you're writing a take on the characters that, by its very nature, distorts those characters beyond recognition, it is inherently a fanfiction. If anything, the more you base a versus depiction on character distortion and exaggeration, the more of a fanfic it becomes.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 15th 2024 at 2:45:43 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Rockernator The Last Brawler from Another Dimension Since: Apr, 2021
The Last Brawler
#84390: Apr 15th 2024 at 3:57:19 PM

On the subject of TMNT, I'd really like a team battle with them where they can all work together.

Maybe against the Penguins of Madagascar.

Just for fun.

thok That's Dr. Title, thank you! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
That's Dr. Title, thank you!
#84391: Apr 15th 2024 at 4:10:49 PM

[up] A Teenage Mutant Samurai Wombats fight would be interesting (toss in Biker Mice from Mars and Street Sharks, and a few others you can think of.)

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#84392: Apr 15th 2024 at 4:24:54 PM

Now this would be an interesting matchup...

But does SMBZ's Mecha Sonic/Metallix have what it takes to defeat CRUSH Kars?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84393: Apr 15th 2024 at 4:59:21 PM

So it just dawned on me that I'd like to see Gambit vs Rex Plode.

They basically have the same power, so it's a good match.

They have a bit more in common, but only if you take X-Men '97 and an upcoming Arc of the comics into account.

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Shoobedobah Anon Zilla from Guess Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#84394: Apr 15th 2024 at 5:08:50 PM

[up][up] TBH it's kind of hard to tell. Taking just the SMBZ reboot into account, Metallix isn't really ready to be analyzed yet because the show is only two episodes in. (and let's be real here, there's a good chance it may never be finished at all)

It'd have some interesting back-and-forth banter though.

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#84395: Apr 15th 2024 at 5:29:57 PM

[up] Huh... I just noticed that Mark Haynes' Twitter account has disappeared, but he's still uploading on YouTube so there's still hope for Episode 3... right? Right...?

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#84396: Apr 15th 2024 at 5:33:17 PM

[up] Uh... Haynes got caught up having some... really bad takes on his Twitter account. So, that's probably kneecapped a lot of support he once had.

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#84397: Apr 15th 2024 at 5:40:40 PM

[up] Huh. And apparently this isn't the first time it's happened. :|

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#84398: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:37:43 PM

Pretty sure SMBZ is dead and Haynes is doomed to lead the life of a hairdresser.

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I've fantasized about the Turtles teaming up to fight Master Roshi.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 15th 2024 at 9:39:31 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Mrbda241 Spectator Since: Feb, 2016
Spectator
#84399: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:51:53 PM

I'd always be down for Master Splinter vs. Master Shifu.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84400: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:58:08 PM

Ninja turtles Vs Gamera

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

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