DEATH BATTLE

Robots are better than muscles.

Not in my heart.

(seriously, sorry, I just really like machine stuff)

edited 21st Mar '18 1:08:43 PM by KazuyaProta

Kenshiro has proven otherwise in the past.

Yeah, I'm not seeing Crash winning the next fight. Spyro has superior mobility and offensive options, even if we only use the Classic incarnations. The dragon's powerups are also better; any range advantage Crash could have with the Bazooka can be matched by the Fireball powerup, the Supercharge makes Spyro much faster on the ground, and the Superfly lets him... well, fly.

Besides, the myriad of ways by which Crash dies makes him vulnerable to pretty much anything, so long as Aku Aku isn't there to take a hit for him.

if crash hurts sparks tho it's game over the purple dragon

Well I don't think Spyro would be allowed the Supercharge because those require power-up gates/ramps that he'd not have access to.

Superflame I'm sort of iffy on. You can get a permanent one for 100%'ing Ripto's Rage, but that never carries over into later games so I don't think it should count.

Sparx takes more hits than Aku Aku, though. Sparx takes three hits unboosted (with a fourth hit point being unlockable in Year of the Dragon), while Aku Aku can never take more than two.

If Crash has his extra abilities from beating Cortex's minions available to him, then it stands that Spyro should get access to his powerups as well.

edited 21st Mar '18 1:16:59 PM by TheHeroHartmut

Yeah but the difference between Crash and Spyro is that generally speaking, Crash getting his power-ups is canon to the games.

Spyro keeps stuff like swimming, climbing, headbash, sometimes the elemental breaths. But he never permanently gets to Supercharge, Fly, or Superflame, because those are all connected to gates he has to find and use.

Ok, I have questions, mostly from stuff I’ve seen people elsewhere bring up.

• It’s said Star Platinum automaticity protects Jotaro from danger, so how does Kenshiro get around that, since he apparently can’t damage it?

• How liberally does Jotaro use time stop in a fight? Would it ever be his opening move in a fight with an unknown opponent?

• Would Musou Tensei work during timestop?

For the record, I agree with Kenshiro winning, I’ve just seen others arguing against that.

edited 21st Mar '18 1:47:41 PM by Vespa

• By being somewhere Star Platinum isnt The fight has him distract Star Platinum with decoys to hit Jojo while it's busy. Star Platinum can only cover so many threats.
• It is not. I don't think there's a single fight Jotaro opens with time stop. Though he's quick to use it if him or an ally are in danger or if Star Platinum gets overwhelmed.
• I don't see why not? I mean, lights don't turn off during time stop. So if Kenshiro is in that state when the time stop begins, he'd remain in that state until it ends.

edited 21st Mar '18 1:42:35 PM by Ghilz

x3: I don't see how that would stop DB from having the fight take place in a location where a couple of those powerup gates are present. Otherwise, Kirby wouldn't have been able to make use of his copy abilities in his fight against Majin Buu.

edited 21st Mar '18 1:50:15 PM by TheHeroHartmut

He did it while fighting Josuke.

I'm curious why a Stand can't touch Kenshiro in Musou Tensei when we've seen Stands affect ghosts.

edited 21st Mar '18 1:54:08 PM by Soble

No, Jotaro's first move was shittalking Josuke's hair.

No he didn't. He punches Josuke with Star Platinum (At that point Josuke doesn't even know other stands exist so he's wide open and still summoning Crazy Diamond) before Crazy Diamond attacks. He only time stops when Crazy Diamond overwhelms Star Platinum's defence.

edited 21st Mar '18 1:58:14 PM by Ghilz

-rewatches- My mistake.

He didn't shittalk his hair he just mentioned it IIRC (which Josuke misheard).

edited 21st Mar '18 2:23:41 PM by Sigilbreaker26

Ultron has been the corrupter a lot in his time too, especially once he allied with the Phalanx and gained the ability to turn meat people into techno zombies

He also hacked Iron Man's armor to turn him into a naked woman because sure

> He also hacked Iron Man's armor to turn him into a naked woman because sure

can't believe this didn't make it into Age of Ultron

Considering movie Ultron is a troll it wouldn't even be out of character.

Well, that was a fun fight.

Yeah, in the end it was just a game of tag, and Jotaro only needed to be it once.

More to the point, since he had no way of knowing a single touch was deadly, he had little defence against it. Funny to think that someone with Time stop could lose a fight, but Ken just had more muscle.

I also wasn't aware that Hokuto No Ken had long range Ki Attacks either. I thought it was entirely close range stuff.

Its not really Kenshiro's Hokuto no Ken that even won him it really. It was an important factor but like, without how unfairly broken Musou Tensei is, Kenshiro would've lost to Star Platinum's ability to phase through his chest.

Removing yourself from reality will always be one of the most bullshit powers in fiction.

Honestly, Ken's lucky they omitted Eyes of Heaven.

Being able to warp reality would have netted Jotaro the fight hands down.

Fortunately for him, damn near everyone hates Eyes of Heaven. DIO most of all.

edited 21st Mar '18 2:40:52 PM by HandsomeRob

Why is Eyes of Heaven disliked so much?

I wouldn't say it's hated so much as the ending is widely disliked and I think there's a consensus that it's a step down from All-Star Battle. (I've never played either).

It suffers massively from the Part 3 Wolverine Publicity in Japan whereas that part is significantly less popular in the west.

edited 21st Mar '18 2:51:56 PM by Sigilbreaker26

Too much emphasis on Jotaro and the Stardust crusaders arc namely.

And the fact that they reuse the entire they're the same type of stand idea in order to have Star Platinum achieve Over Heaven as well (even though it's apparently not something as achieved as easily as that).

Ben wants to bring Beerus in, which kinda worries me.