DEATH BATTLE

The comment section of WW vs Thor is so salty, saying Wondey only won because Screwattack wouldn’t let a man beat a girl (Guess Bayonetta vs Dante doesn’t exist.)

...Even though Bayonetta should have won that one.

There's also Zoro vs. Erza.

Or Zoro vs Ezra, but You Tube's gonna You Tube.

So I read a couple of takes on the next fight, and I'm thinking this fight is gonna come down to how they decide to quantify Ichigo.

(mind you this is heresay, my knowledge on both series is trash)

I've read that going strictly by feats, Naruto has this easily, but if you bring powerscaling and guidebook stuff in the mix, then Ichigo has a huge advantage in everything other than versatility.

So idk, I'll just wait for the salt mine explosion.

edited 18th Oct '17 4:09:51 PM by Vespa

You are correct sir. In fact, when Ichigo tried to use his full power, the villain he was fighting actually broke his sword before he even got the chance. I myself believed it was because said bad guy knew that Ichigo actually could have stopped him if he got the chance to go all out, but it might have been done purely for shock value.

edited 18th Oct '17 4:09:50 PM by HandsomeRob

The Naruto God Tiers are far from frail, and Naruto is one of those as of now, though He's been killed off by the main villain of Boruto as per its Flash Forward in the manga and anime. Somehow.

edited 18th Oct '17 4:32:48 PM by Demongodofchaos2

Of course Diana won. She's a DC character. Their feats are ridiculous. Being a woman had nothing to do with it; she was always going to win because she belongs to a setting where half of the characters in the universe can blow up half of the universe itself by flexing too hard.

edited 18th Oct '17 4:47:55 PM by TobiasDrake

To be fair, Marvel is still winning 6-4 against DC.

Or, to put it more simply: Thor's feat was tagging Quicksilver. Wonder Woman's feat was defeating Professor Zoom, who I'm pretty sure is roughly as fast as The Flash.

Oh, whoops. Thanks for the correction.

edited 18th Oct '17 6:06:38 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest

That wasn't Professor Zoom (aka the Reverse Flash). That's Zoom, as in Hunter Zolomon, who's powers weren't super speed, but Time manipulation.

Still impressive however.

I thought it's been established that "average" DC characters lose to "average" Marvel characters and the upper echelon of DC characters beat the top Marvel characters.

Pretty much.

Iron Man vs. Lex Luthor and Hawkeye vs. Green Arrow

Contrast that with

Quicksilver vs. Flash and Hulk vs. Doomsday

Unless you get into the Cosmic Tiers, that's when things get messy.

While they didn't count them due to being circumstantial, Odinforce and Rune King Thor Wreck WW, who I don't believe has a form similar to that of either.

The is Stronger then his own father, Odin, who is a Skyfather level being who's power generally outstrips even other skyfathers except for Zeus, who's marvel incarnation is explicitly immortal as opposed to the very slowly aging mortal, though Odin can become even stronger, probably on par with his Odinforce empowered sun, when wearing the Destroyer armor, built specifically to fight Cube Level entities such as Normal Dormammu and the Celestials

The Latter is Thor at his absolute strongest, allowing him to ascend in to the Universe level Cosmic heirarchy, though very low on it, which allows him to dwarf literally any Marvel character that doesn't have the ability to destroy a universe, which is a lot less in terms of characters that can't then you might thin including the aforementioned Odin when wearing the Destroyer armor.

They were generally temporary powerups that were retconned after Secret Wars 2, so I'm not surprised he wasn't given either.

edited 18th Oct '17 6:24:20 PM by Demongodofchaos2

One problem I have with the fight is just how sudden it gets in the end.

Wonder Woman backflips away from Thor, suddenly the lasso is around Thor's arm.

Thor hits himself with his hammer, suddenly he snapped out of warrior mode.

?

seemed fine to me

WW wrapped the lasso around thor's arm, pulled his arm back to force him to hit himself in the head with his hammer which did enough damage to knock him out of warrior mode

Well yeah, but it was all so sudden to me.

Like, there's no shot of Wonder Woman throwing her lasso, or any sort of transition between Raging Thor and Confused Thor, it changes like a light switch.

Yeah, I have to agree that of course Wonder Woman would win. But holy shit, I did not know how fast she is. Honestly, I feel stuff like that devalues the characters who specialty is that very thing.

Anyway, I'm excited for Naruto vs. Ichigo! I'm curious how this will play out. I'm thinking Naruto has this one, but who knows with Ichigo? There's at least a 75% chance he'll reveal himself to gain ninja powers during this fight, on top of everything else he has.

At the very least his shoulder bones defy anatomical science

He is always taking really bad injuries there and somehow retains the use of his arms

And by really bad I mean people cutting a foot or two into his body from the collarbones down

That's always left me miffed with DC Comics. With my admittedly limited reading of them, I've always understood that the Flash is supposed to be the fastest. But then you read about that time Diana judo-flipped Professor Zoom while blind, and how Superman plays chess with Barry at light-speed, and how Batman can build a mech with a special program for keeping up with Barry.

It always felt like Flash was kind of invalidated by Superman and Wonder Woman. Like, Flash should be the fastest bar none, it's his thing. Clark and Diana shouldn't be keeping up with him. Seeing Clark lose to Barry in a footrace was honestly my favorite moment in Smallvile.

The flash is the fastest though, he is literally able to outrun Death itself, and outran the Big Bang at one point. Even Supes and Wonder Woman can’t move that fast, not even in pre crisis days.

And as for WW being faster then Thor’s, like I said, that is discounting Odinforce and Rune King Thor, as I described them above, but since they are not permanent power ups as of current marvel, they aren’t usable.

Marvel’s Hercules would have been a more fitting match up with Wonder Woman, actually. Wonder Woman would have been honored to fight him.

edited 19th Oct '17 7:17:58 AM by Demongodofchaos2

The Flash is literally fast enough to outrun instantaneous teleportation. He covered the distance from the edge of the universe to the Earth in less than a planck instant. That is impossibly, immeasurably fast.

Everyone on Earth had to be running at the same time to send their kinetic energy through the Speed Force to the Flash for him to be able to do it, but still. Crazy fast is an understatement.

edited 19th Oct '17 7:24:41 AM by Zeromaeus

He used kinetic energy from other beings to do so, but he has rarely been able to move faster then that instance.

She actually met Marvel's Hercules. She accused him of being a rapist just like the Hercules of her universe was one.

edited 19th Oct '17 8:08:46 AM by windleopard

seen diana kill thor after he blast raiden was cathartic for me....but on the other hand...yeah the animation was weird in the end.

Yeah. She immediately jumped to kick his ass, due to her massive issues with the Hercules of her universe.

...I wonder if they ever hashed that out? I think Diana would actually like Marvel's Herc (or at least not despise him) if she learned he wasn't a rapist like her world's Herc.

edited 19th Oct '17 9:18:49 AM by HandsomeRob

Possibly.

The teams spent some time in a combined universe with team ups so likely the two had to work together at some points.