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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180176: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:26:44 AM

hahahahaha'

There was an effort yesterday to get House GOP conservatives — the House Freedom Caucus and Republican Study Committee — to meet with GOP moderates — the Tuesday Group — to talk about a path forward after last week's failed health care effort.

It ended up deteriorating into blame-shifting and recriminations.

https://www.axios.com/house-gop-health-care-peacemaking-deteriorates-2336409792.html

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#180177: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:32:10 AM

With that, Trump doesn't even have 51% of Congress, he has less then a 3rd!

Burning the Bridge with the Teapublicans is going to make this Congress do nothing for 2 years! The Teapublicans aren't going to be kicked out in a Primary, and they may just straight up join the Libertarians now! The only Party that's going to benefit is, of course, the Democrats! Trump just ruined his entire first term!

This President is the most incompetent, petty one we've ever had. Not even James Buchanan divided his own party by himself!

[down] Yeah, it's just a shame that they stupidly got the Anti-ISP Protections Bill passed before the split was official. At least the Genetics-For-Sale Bill should not pass the Senate.

... Also, we're going to be in another Government Shutdown unless Trump makes a hell of a lot of concessions to the Democrats...

edited 30th Mar '17 8:37:41 AM by DingoWalley1

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#180178: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:34:19 AM

[up]

Burning the Bridge with the Teapublicans is going to make this Congress do nothing for 2 years!

And thank God for that.smile

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#180179: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:40:07 AM

why does this exist? Who even had time to make a robot for the express purpose of printing out and burning trump tweets?

https://mobile.twitter.com/burnedyourtweet

edited 30th Mar '17 8:48:25 AM by megaeliz

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#180180: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:44:12 AM

Funny/true joke on last night's Fallon. Jared Kushner said that the government should be run like a business and the citizens are the customers. If that's the case, can we trade in the current president for a better one?

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180181: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:46:42 AM

Trump declares parts of Somalia a war zone, relaxes targeting rules

Under the new guidelines, Africa Command may treat Somalia under less-restrictive battlefield rules: Without interagency vetting, commanders may strike people thought to be Shabab fighters based only on that status, without any reason to think that the individual target poses a particular and specific threat to Americans.

Ah, killing brown people. America's past time.

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#180182: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:58:42 AM

And let me grab some popcorn while the circular firing squad begins forming...

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#180183: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:02:50 AM

Is there any site that tracks trump's approval among republicans?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#180184: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:04:15 AM

[up][up][up]

Huh, and here I thought my opinion of Trump couldn't sink any lower.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#180185: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:13:51 AM

@speedyboris- I saw something (I think) Colbert had said, which is a good point. We (citizens) aren't customers. It's a democracy, so we own the business and elected officials are the employees.

It's a bad metaphor in any case which I think was part of the point, but calling citizens customers says a lot about how Kushner thinks of us.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#180186: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:23:37 AM

In other words, we're suckers to be catered to until they can rip us off for all our possessions, then dumped on the roadside while they find the next group of suckers.

PhysicalStamina (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#180187: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:24:24 AM

Does anyone know where that story was about a Frenchman being attacked for not liking trump was? I can't find it for the life of me

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#180188: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:25:11 AM

[up][up]Yeah, basically. It also speaks to the idea that folks like Kushner and Trump see government as a mechanism for personal enrichment. After all, if they are the executives, shouldn't they get the big payouts?

As for Trump and Ryan vs. the Freedom Caucus, we've long said that the GOP needed to clean out that cesspit if they ever hoped to govern rationally again. Let the war begin.

edited 30th Mar '17 9:25:22 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#180189: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:29:44 AM

[up][up]LGBT activist 'kidnapped and raped by man angry at Donald Trump being mocked' do you mean this one?

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
PhysicalStamina (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#180190: Mar 30th 2017 at 9:57:14 AM

That'd be the one. Thanks

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#180191: Mar 30th 2017 at 10:00:24 AM

Smack at the center of many of the swirling attacks is Bob Gray, a former Johns Creek councilman. Hardly known among Georgia politicos before he entered the race, the snowy-haired telecom executive has emerged as a leading Republican contender in poll after poll.

“It’s time to stand with President Trump, and I intend to be a willing partner to move this country forward,” Gray said at a recent east Cobb gathering of Republicans. “It’s time to drain the swamp.”

Pennywise is a Trump supporter and running to be a representative? .....makes sense.

"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180192: Mar 30th 2017 at 10:03:22 AM

So, that Senate Intelligence Hearing. Wow. Got to give credit where credit is due. Richard Burr made Nunes look like the petty and small child that he is. Actual grown ups in the room.

Here are some highlights I tried to catch.

Russian Active Measures hope to topple democracies through the pursuit of five complementary objectives:

• Undermine citizen confidence in democratic governance • Foment and exacerbate divisive political fractures • Erode trust between citizens and elected officials and democratic institutions • Popularize Russian policy agendas within foreign populations • Create general distrust or confusion over information sources by blurring the lines between fact and fiction

Russia’s new and improved online Active Measures shifted aggressively toward U.S. audiences in late 2014 and throughout 2015.

They launched divisive messages on nearly any disaffected U.S. audience.

Whether it be claims of the U.S. military declaring martial law during the Jade Helm exercise, chaos amongst Black Lives matter protests, or tensions in the Bundy Ranch standoff in Oregon.

Also Watts (The MVP of the hearing) says that Rubio specifically was a target of a Russian attack for reason yet unclear.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#180193: Mar 30th 2017 at 10:13:27 AM

Trump calling his administration a business and touting his skills as a dealmaker and a salesman, and failing at both makes me think of Glengarry Glen Ross

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#180194: Mar 30th 2017 at 10:29:21 AM

Putin seeks Trump meeting in Helsinki in May

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he would like to meet US President Donald Trump at an Arctic nations summit in Finland in May.

He again rejected allegations that Russia had interfered in the 2016 US presidential election. And he said sanctions against Russia were also hurting the US and Europe.

Mr Trump had voiced hopes for improved relations with Moscow, but he has been dogged by claims of links between his election campaign and Russia.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and both houses of the US Congress are investigating alleged Russian interference in the election.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#180195: Mar 30th 2017 at 10:40:20 AM

How is it far to the right? What leftist ideas or issues are there that people won't entertain or discuss?

Lets see: we could talk about instituting a "maximum wage" where the executives of a company make no more than, say, 20x more than the lowest paid worker within that company, universal daycare for the children of working parents, universal maternity/paternity leave, (shit, there are countries with leave each month for women with heavy periods, and we can't accept that mother should get paid time off after giving birth!) government takeover of industries/research that society feels should be dedicated solely to the public good rather than profit, (medical research & drug making, for example) massively expand the scope of the FDA so that all the unregulated supplements making bogus health claims will have a much harder time getting into the market, form a national construction force ala the Army Corps of Engineers who go around to make major infrastructure programs or to make upgrades to existing infrastructure, (replacing lead pipes, fixing dams and bridges, etc.) instead of subcontracting out to local groups who are often notoriously corrupt, hold executives of companies personally responsible when they commit major violations of the law, (what's that you say? You shouldn't go to prison and be forced to personally pay back the money your bank made by laundering money for drug cartels and state sponsors of terrorism? Guess you should have been paying more attention to what your company was doing and keeping it legal) turn prisons into institutions of rehabilitation instead of punishment, (and outlaw private prisons while we're at it) form a civil rights enforcement division to make sure that right of minorities are not violated with regard to things like housing and hiring, (we used to have a version of that with housing, for example. Guess what landlord that currently occupies the White House was caught having a "Don't rent to black people" policy about 40 years ago) tuition free college, teaching actual sex ed and how to properly interact with people they're attracted to instead of just a basic "These are all the diseases you can get from having sex course" etc., etc.

How many of those stand a chance of passing at a national level? A bunch of them are either laws or viable current issues elsewhere. So that's a taste of how far the US is to the right of a whole bunch of 1st world countries.

edited 30th Mar '17 10:48:56 AM by TheWanderer

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#180196: Mar 30th 2017 at 11:02:22 AM

Chris Christie finally gets a job at the Trump White House: He is to head a Commission to fight the nation's Opioid Addiction.

I don't think he knows a damn thing about how to fight it...

To be fair, Christie has been passionate about the issue of Opioid addiction, and in New Jersey he signed laws restricting how much could be prescribed at once, and forcing insurers to treat it as a health issue, including, I believe, to treat Opioid rehab immediately and without reservation.

Source 1, 2.

He's probably a pretty decent choice, in truth. As long as he and his cronies don't get the chance to enrich themselves off it or pursue petty political grudges. tongue

(Speaking of which, while two of the Christie aides were sentenced to jail the other day, guess whether some of the other major figures are? If you guessed in the Trump Administration, you're right!)

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#180198: Mar 30th 2017 at 12:41:49 PM

Think there's a chance to override it?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180199: Mar 30th 2017 at 12:48:43 PM

I remember reading that there aren't enough Democrats and moderate Republicans to stop a veto.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#180200: Mar 30th 2017 at 12:49:25 PM

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/business/media/sean-hannity-is-still-upset-ted-koppel-said-he-was-bad-for-america.html

Sean Hannity is just a tad huffy that Ted Koppel called him bad for America.

edited 30th Mar '17 12:51:39 PM by sgamer82


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