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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
So...who's up for Trump/Cruz 2016?
edited 27th Aug '15 6:38:55 PM by nightwyrm_zero
I have it on good authority that Ben Carson is building a human centipede somewhere. Maybe we're seeing the genesis of Trump/Ted-Scott-Lindsey?
edited 27th Aug '15 6:50:27 PM by Artificius
"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."
So, someone decided to mix Trump, Hamlet, and ransom negotiations. "Toupee, or not to pay?" ...I'll see myself out.
Anyway, Singapore is a very nonstandard country when it comes to discussing the economy - what works in Singapore, in Brazil, and the US will all be different. To my knowledge, the US government is no worse at running companies than private executives; it's kinda six-of-one half-a-dozen-of-the-other.
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
The Mod with the Migraine
Is Bernie's support too narrow to succeed? Excerpts here.
So here’s a different framework for thinking about Mr. Sanders’s challenge, perhaps one that will resonate with his supporters: inequality. It is tempting to look at Mr. Sanders’s huge crowds and assume that he has a good chance. To me, that’s as convincing as saying the Connecticut economy is booming because the houses in Greenwich are so big and pretty.
Call it the Berni coefficient. It’s just like the Gini, except instead of looking at the distribution of money among people, we’re looking at the distribution of Sanders volunteers among congressional districts. A coefficient of one would mean that all Sanders’s volunteers were in one congressional district; zero would mean every district had the same amount.
By this measure, the Sanders coalition is even more unequal than the wealth in the United States. The Sanders coefficient clocks in at 0.483. It basically resembles the state of Connecticut, the second-most unequal state in the country (New York is No. 1).
In places like Seattle; Portland, Ore.; and Burlington, Vt., more than a thousand people showed up to house parties. But in 12 congressional districts, there were no Sanders events at all.
The public opinion polls show the problem. While Mr. Sanders is in striking distance of Hillary Rodham Clinton in Oregon and Wisconsin — and a second New Hampshire poll shows him leading — there are vast swaths of the country where Mr. Sanders has little support at all. He’s down by 68 points in Alabama, 78 to 10. He has 11 percent support in Georgia. In rural Georgia, he has 6 percent. Many surveys show him struggling to get out of the single digits among black voters, who represent around 20 percent of the Democratic primary electorate.
It is not at all clear that Mr. Sanders’s big organizing efforts in San Francisco, Seattle or New York would do much to improve his numbers in Charleston, S.C., or Detroit, any more than the dynamic postindustrial economy of San Francisco has helped the workers remaining in Detroit.
Shameful Display
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It does look dire, but than again many major political changes have come out of New England, the War of Independence and the Abolitionist movement being the most significant.
Does Joe Bidden know something about Hillary Clinton that we don't.
Biden is secretly campaigning for Bernie by splitting the Hillary vote
Karkadinn
Do black voters actually think that a Clinton presidency is going to be more beneficial to them than a Sanders one, or is this just a case of rejecting all non-ideal candidates equally?
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
I think black voters want all candidates to address racial issues in a substantial manner, and that's why they're showing up to the rallies and protesting/disrupting/what have you. Not really sure if they think Hillary's up to snuff on that issue since I haven't heard much about it besides that interview with one of the BLM guys. (I think it was one of those.)
The Mod with the Migraine
I think Hillary's security is much better than other candidates, owing to her status as both former First Lady and former Cabinet member, which has prevented #BLM from targeting her. I think the movement justifiably does not believe (at the moment anyway) that any of the candidates will do anything more than (at best) pay lip service to the continuing racial inequality that permeates American society.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
They have targeted her, though. She's just had better security to prevent the activists from disrupting her events the way they did Sanders'.
As far as black peoples' opinions on Bernie Sander's go, I haven't gotten the impression he's generally disliked, just that Hilary is liked more. Whenever I hear them brought up he seems either unknown or liked, she's just liked more. Of course, these people are of the older generation.
edited 28th Aug '15 7:19:41 AM by LSBK
Karkadinn
I don't think disrupting campaigns based on which ones are easiest to disrupt is going to lead anywhere good for long term presidential campaign trends. Candidates would most likely respond by just 'armoring up' and putting more barriers between them and the public. But we'll have to wait for at least another cycle before we see if this kind of campaign pressure becomes standard or not.
It also seems more than a little surreal to me that Sanders is eating so much flack for running what is called a racially tone-deaf campaign, when Obama previously beat Clinton and garnered a large part of the black vote with very much the same overall tone. But apparently right now is the time to be angry about racial issues that have been ongoing pretty much indefinitely.
The cultural zeitgeist is enthusiastic, but unnervingly spontaneous.
edited 28th Aug '15 7:55:46 AM by Karkadinn
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
V
You mean the sort of atmosphere that could turn seriously nasty with a spark?
Queen of Good Things, Honest
There's one pressing issue this election that I'm hoping to see a candidate do a good job representing. My vote will go to whichever candidate best approaches the matter of "not being Donald Trump."
If Hillary's willing to run on the Not Donald Trump platform, she's got my vote.
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A nice butterfly
Well. Latinos like the popularity of Clinton. My bet is that they will most likely be interested in supporting her over Sanders, but this is speculation.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Lost in Space
Here's the thing. Democrats can win by ensuring that minorities don't vote Republican, even if a set of them stay home because of rancor over racial politics. Thus, Trump will do more to guarantee a Democrat winning the White House than all the pandering to #BLM or whatever.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Pretty much, I think the GOP needs like 35%-40%+ of the Latino vote to have a shot at the White House. The last time they hit that was during the Bush era, as George the 2nd was relatively popular (he grabbed a good 45% of that vote) among them.
Trump is going to energize Democratic and independent Latinos to vote for whoever isn't him and will keep conservative ones home for the most part. Even if he doesn't win the nomination he's pissed off too many people (Latinos and otherwise), who are also ticked off at the GOP for tolerating this and for their overall hardline stances.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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Beware the Crazy Man.
Impressive. He just better hope he doesn't actually win...
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
A nice butterfly
Sometimes a jackass is just a jackass.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
President Jackass, if he'd be elected.
edited 28th Aug '15 10:49:21 AM by DrunkenNordmann
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I mean, up to a point you have to feel sorry for Boehner and the shit he has to put up with.
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The law in the night
The Latin vote is a bit complicated.
For one the anti immigration policies spewed by the Republicans tend to drive most out of their voting bases, but the traditional family focus and the republican stance on abortion usually fall in line with more traditional catholic latin families.
But thanks to our Toupee candidate rabid stance on immigration, I'm fairly sure that most will vote democrat simply because it is the only party that doesn't outright hostilizes them.
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I think it is his hair, he just styles it weirdly on purpose (for the same reasons Hitler and Lenin purposely took unique styles...to make themselves standout). His pictures from the 80s or so, his hair looked more normal (if overly coifed, which was an issue of the 80s in general).
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...