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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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US promises further inquiries into FIFA. Murica fuck yeah!!
edited 27th May '15 11:33:24 AM by JackOLantern1337
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The FIFA thing seems like one of those odd international situations where it didn't really matter which country acted first, it could still be seen as overreaching from a legal standpoint. And given what I've read, there is enough genuine corruption at work there that someone had to make a move first, because FIFA wasn't going to clean its act up on its own.
While it would probably be better if more countries were openly supporting or assisting in the investigations or arrests, I'm not seeing anything major to criticize about the U.S. doing this.
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I don't mind that you guys finally found the dirt on Eduardo Li (From Costa Rica). If anything, I am glad someone can. Fucking criminals.
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Switzerland being involved is a good thing for the image though. The country still has a reputation for neutrality, and the Swiss government structure makes actual systemic corruption kind of difficult, so it's way less hypocritical than if it was just the US involved.
Not Three Laws compliant.
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Agreed - and I can't help but think that John Oliver deserves partial credit again, what with that expose about corrosive practices within FIFA (e.g. "rainy-day fund" bigger than most countries' GDP, "get rid of your liquor ban!" to "We're disappointed in the violence resulting from the lifting of the liquor ban") that should have prompted investigations before this.
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I'm only sad they didn't get Blatter (yet)
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So when is anyone gonna clean up the NBA or the NFL?
I can't speak for the NBA, but from what I've heard the NFL's level of corruption, bad as it can be, is nowhere near as bad as FIFA.
More like giant cherries
Given that Qatar pretty much openly bought the World Cup, FIFA always looked pretty shady.
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How the hiring process favors the elites. Amongst other things you can kiss your employment chances goodbye if you don't play sports, have a regional accent, or are black and don't admit to having grown up poor,many interviewers will assume you are lying to them.
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And is it worse, if you're a foreigner and fit one of those criteria?note
I was reading about Silk Road. I'll copy/paste what I'm gonna send my friend about it, since it's relevant to US politics:
But it all falls apart. I mean, even as an ideological test, it fails. How can you truly police a community without “police”, so to speak? Someone has to be in charge. Doesn’t have to be government, of course; there are online game communities that are experimenting with semi-automated systems that ban players who are abusive or openly sexist or racist. But there does need to be leaders.
And then of course, the very nature of bitcoin, which makes it easy to pass around without interference from government, and therefore great for money laundering, also makes it very easy to steal. Dread Pirate Roberts was robbed. And what could he do about it? Call the police? Due to the nature of his enterprise, of course not. He hires a (fake) hitman to commit murder. In other words, the man who’d made a big deal about respecting his community, suddenly had to police it, suddenly had to take on a sort of government role.
I know better than to say that the story of Silk Road alone proves libertarianism a total fail. But it is based on the ideology, and does show flaws in it.
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We've been over that a fair bit. Yes, Silk Road is prima facie evidence that a complete libertarian ideology applied to money cannot work. As I've said a few times, every time someone thinks they can reinvent society from a "nobody tells me what to do" basis, they run into exactly the same problems as every other time that's been tried, and are forced to adopt the same solutions.
I want to tell them, "Welcome to 10,000 BC."
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What also stuck out to me was that Ross Ulbricht founded the site after multiple business ventures failed. I think he wanted to do something that would be successful for once. He became an ideologue afterwards, but I think being successful was his primary motivation, and proving libertarianism right was his secondary.
That said, what about Austrian economics and libertarianism would appeal to a multiple-time failed business owner? I'm wondering if it's somehow related to what about it appeals to my brother. I get wanting to reinvent yourself after multiple failures, but still, what about libertarianism specifically does it?
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Being able to blame your failures on the state's interference and not your own stupidity or something?
Oh really when?
I'm thinking there's gotta be more to it than that.
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I dunno, I'm speaking out of personal experience but most libertarians I've met tend to be rather selfish and petty people.
And there's the whole thing that libertarian ideology has never failed, it can only be failed kinda thing going on.
Oh really when?
The big libertarian in my family is pretty selfish. Not 100% so (he's going to Costa Rica to help build houses), but by and large he is. His views on women and sex are of the "men are heroes, women are [I won't say the word] if they have lots of sex" variety. Well, his views on women are 100% self-serving and hate-filled. You know, they should have never had the right to vote, only marry an Asian wife, etc. <_<
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This conversation isn't about your brother, let's remind ourselves. But there is a fundamentally selfish aspect to all the ideas he espouses.
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Something that's always confused me about libertarians is that they never seem to consider what would happen if they got their dream society and it turned out someone was stronger or more cunning than they were. They could lose everything and there wouldn't be anything they could do because in their society the strongest can just do whatever they want.
How exactly did Qatar buy the World Cup?
They believe that won't happen. They assume that the Free Market™ will prevent companies from joining together and forming essentially monopolies. They literally believe that monopolies can't happen without government and crony capitalism.
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Good old fashioned bribery I think
Speaking of Santorum:
Rick Santorum, the former senator from Pennsylvania, will announce today that he will seek the GOP nomination for president in 2016.
Santorum really has no chance of winning this nomination, especially now that Huckabee has entered the race.
The only reason the Evangelical Christians backed his Catholic ass after Perry dropped out is because there only other choices were a Mormon, an adulterer, and Ron Paul.
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