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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Lost in Space
It would be a net positive for the Federal budget...
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Texas will never secede, at least not in our lifetimes. The worst thing that could happen is a couple of solo crazy militia groups getting themselves killed.
edited 5th May '15 5:47:32 PM by Ekuran
RE: Texan "fracking-ban" ban
No way in hell is that not getting appealed - hopefully a judge or two will order a moratorium on lifting those bans until the courts decide whether it's even legal.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
Depends on what the Texas constitution says about land use and zoning. Some states give very little authority to municipalities that cannot be taken away by the legislature on a whim. Municipal rights are not necessarily protected. The federal constitution never mentions them, of course.
Resident Bollywood Nerd
Texas constitution
Does the state of Texas follow different laws from the rest of the US? If so, why does it bother being a part of the same country?
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State constitutions are overridden by the federal one, for instance slavery was still abolished after the Civil War but one state (Missouri? I think.) didn't ratify the anti-slavery amendment until a few years ago.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Keep Hope Alive
Texans forget that their brief run as an independent country was one of the darkest periods of their history. No they won't secede in our lifetime, I believe there's a higher chance of the U.S. formally admitting new states than any state seceding. And the urban centers in Texas are to the best of my knowledge, pretty blue and would oppose any kind of separation.
Stand Fast, Stand Strong, Stand Together
V
On the American far-right & the Military — It may be true that they Republicans and those further to the political Right support the institution of the US Military and the people within it, but it is also probably true that they don't trust the military, since it is a symbol of Federal Power.
Hence what has happened in Texas.
Keep Rolling On
Texas came in the union with the condition they could leave anytime.
So that's why it always comes up
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Nope, that's a common mistake. Even this site, which looks a bit far-out-there, admits that the Texas Constitution doesn't specifically give it a right to secede.
United Earth
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They could start with Guam, My-Heart's-Devotion, and the Philippines.
Lost in Space
No matter what anyone thinks, Texas joined the Union under the same terms as all the other states. It is only dissoluble with consent of all of the states.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
On the other hand, if Texas did finally pass a referendum to secede, in today's world the strongest opposition would be in Austin and along the Mexican border, not in the North. There's a lot of people who would shrug and tell Texas "if that's what you idiots really want..."
Cool. Thanks for the correction.
They taught me that in grade school. I will keep an eye out for that with my kid.
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Lost in Space
Indeed, I don't see the motivation to fight a war, it would be more along the lines of, "Sure, guys, whatever. Have fun without all the transfer payments." Or a central bank providing a lender-of-last-resort function. Or an army to protect you.
edited 6th May '15 7:19:03 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I saw a libertarian bumper sticker today when going shopping. "Less government, more freedom" it said in smaller print.
I wonder how old many of these libertarians are. I notice that certain reactionary movements tend to be largely young, others, more old.
I read a nice little article about how extremists tend to be the ones who overrun comments sections and make it look as if most people think like they do, when they're really just a super-vocal minority that flocks to articles about [Topic]. I see it all the time with certain issues. Like the anti-vaxxers, or the manospherians on many articles that mention women's issues (yes, I think both sexes have their own issues, no, the existence of one sex's struggles don't invalidate the other sex's struggles - what is so hard to get about that for some people). It's annoying. Then they point to that as "proof" that most people think a certain way, when really, the people who freeped the comments are the ones who do.
edited 6th May '15 7:55:15 AM by BonsaiForest
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
In my experience the young libertarians are just idiots who wanna smoke dope without getting a ticket and have no real concept of why having a proper government is a good thing. Nor any interest to learn about the higher political ramifications of such a thing.
And the old ones are just upset they can't be bigots publically anymore.
But that's just me as a bitter impoverished person in the south.
Oh really when?
Reactionary movements are really pissing me off. Every time a cop kills an innocent person and it's caught on camera, a bunch of scum raise lots of money for the cop. Do these assholes think they're making their cause look good? I can't wait to see the reactionaries turn people against them. Any victory of theirs has gotta be pyrrhic in the long term.
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Now you're assuming they're intelligent enough to know that.
Oh really when?
At this point, if Texas got far enough to vote for themselves to secede, the rest of the country would either not care or be encouraging....except for one thing: precedent.
They feel it is their moral right to defend the cop.
So no, they don't care about haters or what not because they are right and any disdain or condemnation they get makes them persecuted.
Garcon, you've seen enough of this too haven't you. (hugs)
edited 6th May '15 8:05:03 AM by Gabrael
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Shameful Display
I think the money is being razed under the presumption that the cop is innocent. For example, Darren Wilson was found not guilty by both the Ferguson Grand Jury in a (highly questionable ruling) and by the Justice department (in a ruling that I actually trust.
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I for one would care quite a bit. And the News media would have a field day with the "US is so far in decline states are seceding" narrative.
edited 6th May '15 8:11:06 AM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Why would that be a bad thing? It's like Canada and the UK; they've both indicated that they're willing to let their orneriest members leave if they really want, and that's for the benefit of both nations as a whole.
edited 6th May '15 8:10:17 AM by Ramidel
Shameful Display
Because the US is a highly patriotic (most others would call it nationalist jingoist etc) society, so anything that implies America is not awesome is a Berserk Button for large segments of the population.
Edit: And of course their is our history with secession, which is not pretty.
edited 6th May '15 8:13:34 AM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
I'm honestly terrified of what would happen to my online friends if Texas ever secedes. I feel like it'll immediately become the Christian, redneck version of Saudi Arabia or something.