Follow TV Tropes

Following

Attitudes towards necromancy

Go To

Diamonnes In Riastrad from Ulster Since: Nov, 2009
In Riastrad
#26: Jul 7th 2011 at 11:01:49 PM

Here's the thing: If people could be brought back to life, other people would have to die. There's only so many souls to go 'round. So yeah, fuck that shit.

My name is Cu Chulainn. Beside the raging sea I am left to moan. Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#27: Jul 7th 2011 at 11:03:08 PM

I wonder if Buddhism's soul splitting implies that souls multiply...

I know it can lead to all those people saying they were on the Titanic potentially being correct...

edited 7th Jul '11 11:03:35 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#28: Jul 7th 2011 at 11:07:59 PM

The morality of necromancy is completely dependent on a few factors:

  • what is the effect on the person who brings people back? Do they become corrupt from meddling with death, ala Dresden Files? Or is it simply another spell which is cast, like throwing a ball of flame or moving water around?

  • What does the revived remember? Do they have their memories? Are they even Sapient? Or even still, are they Sentient? Are they capable of speech?

  • What is required to cast the spell? A few magic words and a bit of will? A magic circle and the body of the deceased? Or a sacrifice of a living person?

  • Does it revive the body? The mind? Do people come back as zombies? or ghosts?

  • Is there a condition by which the creations are made? EG a constant input of will from the creator, an audio input, a connection to the creator? Or is there Ontological Inertia, IE They remain even if the caster dies.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#29: Jul 8th 2011 at 8:32:52 AM

Here's the thing: If people could be brought back to life, other people would have to die. There's only so many souls to go 'round. So yeah, fuck that shit.
Is it necessary for currently living people to die, or perhaps there simply won't be any new people born? If it's the latter, then this one does not see much trouble.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#30: Jul 8th 2011 at 10:05:45 AM

Is one's soul created afresh and new from ex nihilo, or is this life just one part of the endless circle of death and rebirth? That I wonder.

hashtagsarestupid
GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
The Shadows Devour You.
LilPaladinSuzy Chaotic New Troll from 4chan Since: Jul, 2010
Chaotic New Troll
#32: Jul 8th 2011 at 2:58:25 PM

I once heard a story about necromancy that said that when someone is raised from the dead, they are mute because they are not allowed to speak of what lies beyond the grave.

If that would hold true in a hypothetical universe, then necromancy's ability for solving murders and studying dead languages and the like might be greatly reduced. Unless we could teach the undead sign language... after all, the rule did only say that they could not "speak"...

Would you kindly click my dragons?
mailedbypostman complete noob from behind you Since: May, 2010
complete noob
#33: Jul 9th 2011 at 1:46:31 PM

Or they could write it down.

LilPaladinSuzy Chaotic New Troll from 4chan Since: Jul, 2010
Chaotic New Troll
#34: Jul 9th 2011 at 1:54:03 PM

[up] That's true, but they'd probably need to learn a sign language too if they wanted to rejoin society. If they don't learn some kind of sign language then they'll basically be like the emo kid from Little Miss Sunshine.

Would you kindly click my dragons?
Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
Citizen
#35: Jul 13th 2011 at 1:00:14 PM

If there's anything that Fantasy and Sci-Fi have taught me about raising the dead, it's that there is always some sort of horrible side effect. Either the dead person comes back as a soulless killing machine, or the person raising them mutates into a giant spider-demon, or you have to kill somebody else in order to make it work. Either way it doesn't seem like a good idea.

As Frederick Frankenstein said, "I am not interested in death! The only thing that interests me is the preservation of life! <Stabs self in leg>

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
Ettina Since: Apr, 2009
#36: Jul 14th 2011 at 10:37:28 AM

But how much of that is just Sour Grapes?

If I'm asking for advice on a story idea, don't tell me it can't be done.
Lawyerdude Citizen from my secret moon base Since: Jan, 2001
Citizen
#37: Jul 14th 2011 at 12:30:58 PM

For the sake of argument, imagine what the ability to raise the dead would do for the military or police. Imagine, the police are hunting a wanted criminal. They find him hiding out and blow his brains out and take the body into custody. Then they resurrect him for his trial.

At the trial he is found guilty and sentenced to death. For six months. Then brought back to life after having served his time.

Or what about people who decide to spend a year dead for tax reasons? Man that would mess with our revenue system.

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#38: Jul 15th 2011 at 2:28:04 AM

The tension between rich and poor is high already. What would happen if lack of money literally denied someone the right to life itself?

Wonder if anyone else here has read The Age of the Pussyfoot. In the story, most forms of death can be treated at cost, so murder has become a misdemeanor—even when committed against the poor who can't afford to be resurrected.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Add Post

Total posts: 38
Top