So How Is America?

how about a dirty harry remake?

So... the Demmy's will win this tim again? Or is that my hopeful outside observer view? I think that Romney seems the least insane. Which is like saying being shot in the face is natural causes in London. Which it is.

edited 28th Jun '11 3:51:13 AM by Inhopelessguy

I'm still waiting on Alec Baldwin and several dozen other celebrities to make due on this kind of statement over the 2000 election. If you're going to make such statements, put the fuck up and leave or shut the fuck up. Whining that "I'm gonna leave this country if X candidate from Y political party wins the Z election if I don't get my way" is a piss poor political position and a poor standard of dealing with problems. (And a poor indicator of one's character too.)

^ Don't count on a Democrat victory. A monkey with a newspaper would beat Obama in a general election right now.

edited 28th Jun '11 5:19:44 AM by MajorTom

Huh. Okay. One second.

<leaves room>

<assassinates David Cameron>

What a shame. Can we borrow the monkey first?

Too bad the Republicans don't even have a monkey with a newspaper...

Unless a printed script from Fox News is considered "news" enough... Naaaaah!

^ Of course they don't have a monkey with a newspaper. They have better than that.

The only problem is, they haven't chosen a candidate via the primaries. Elections always look favorable to the incumbent when the opposition numbers a half dozen potential candidates. It's only when it's down to the 1 on 1 does the true situation emerge and who is decided to win.

Well, at least, we'll know that, monkey or not monkey, the political program of the GOP will be just like FOX: Fair and Balanced And, of course, that it will have new, daring proposals to reduce the deficit: cut taxes for the richest.

Anyway, the good point is that, if they win, they'll probably pull their country right into isolationism, and we'll have a peaceful time to repair their damage and build a new world order with China. :-P

I really think it comes down to the opponent. The GOP doesn't have any candidates who can take on an incumbent.

What they need is another superstar like Reagan or another Eisenhower — good luck, since Republican politicians aren't known for their astounding military service.

I'm confident Obama will get another term, lengthening our agonizingly slow entropy even more.

Well a slow death is a good as a long live all in all.

So... choice between a slow walk towards death (Democrats) or a sprint to catastrophe (GOP)? Tell me about a great election you're going to have..... I hope you'll get help for the rebuilding after the end, since, according to both sides, the other's victory would mean The End of the World as We Know It.

edited 28th Jun '11 7:01:27 AM by RufusShinra

@Major Tom: Actually, this election would be incredibly easy for Obama to do. If the Democrats realize they have a very easy time selling the Republicans as favouring the rich and wanting working class Americans to be forever poor (which they seem to want), then they'll win. Not to mention they can (rightfully) blame the recession on Bush and Reaganomics.

I'll doubt the Democrats will, because they aren't very shrewd. That is the problem with the States: the crazier you are, the louder you are.

edited 28th Jun '11 7:13:46 AM by Erock

Why don't you just form a National Government? Or do some across-the-aisle working? Does that not exist any more?

Two party system makes bipartisan efforts difficult, and what you end up with is Obama' s approval rating.

edited 28th Jun '11 7:14:32 AM by Erock

You'd need some common sense and a will to work for the good of their country (instead of some very very specific interests) in politicians from both sides. And that's something much more difficult to find in Washington and in the two big parties than a snowflake in the Sahara. So... no way.

So... prediction: America will be controlled by transnationals by the year 2030?

Isn't that already the case? Oh, sorry, only half the time. I know, I know, I'm going into Strawman arguments, but, from our side of the Atlantic, it really looks like Corporate America is in direct control of the GOP.

@Markey: Just make sure you GTFO before the goddamn state drifts off into the ocean and turns into a shithole filled with anarchist and other undesirables.

unless you like wearing an eyepatch.

@All: Bachmann isn't that bad; i'm looking forward to hearing what she has to say come election time.

I concur. Us Europeans are free of corporate influence in our political parties. The only things that control them are trade unions.

That would be awesome, a Pirate moving landmass. Where do I sign?

edited 28th Jun '11 7:29:43 AM by RufusShinra

Get off your high horse, Europe has it's own problems. Just smaller ones.

edited 28th Jun '11 7:28:22 AM by Erock

Yep, we've got a lot of problems, especially our industry slow disappearance, our lack of voice and political power, the demographic problems, etc.

I was going to add, "we suck too, but a little bit less severe". Thanks for doing so before me.

@Rufus: Industry hasn't left the Germanic countries. It's part of the reason for their un-matched success.

edited 28th Jun '11 9:38:01 AM by Erock

Just don't forget that even if we have a better social system for the poorest, they're still the richest (in GNP, not actual reserves) and most powerful country in the world. And a unified Europe is very far from existing, so...

Well, that's because we have huge dolts (according to a recent poll, 40-ish% of people say that they want rid of the EU for Britain) who don't understand the economical and political benefits of being "with Europe AND of Europe" (as opposed to being "with Europe but not of Europe").

I hate isolationism, and that's where the Tories will take us.

edited 28th Jun '11 8:11:17 AM by Inhopelessguy