Clarify and/or Rename New Crowner 09/16/11: Air In AG-String

I like that one, though it seems like it might be able to be mistaken for other thinks. like "classic beauty" or something.

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Classical Musicians Are Hot?

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Now that is a to-the-point title.

So are we agreed on changing this to "playing a classical instrument makes you hot/elegant/cool?"

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I think so. To be a trope, this can't just be that that some viewers think that they're sexy, either, or effectively anyone ever seen playing "classical music" (in the broad sense, of course) will count. "Character plays classical music" is People Sit On Chairs. The show has to obviously play on this to count, I think.

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I don't agree that people play classical music is People Sit On Chairs — it says a lot about a person — but I agree that it's not this trope. :)

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Given the support for a rename, there is now an alternative titles crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add names as you see fit.

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Yep, I think that is only use of this trope that is really what this trope can be about before it becomes too broad or too much of a subjective audience reaction.

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Musically Enhanced Beauty seems way too broad! It could all-too-easily be misunderstood as referring to rock, pop or hip-hop stars.

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I must admit, I don't particularly like any of the current suggestions. The one I like best is Classical Musicians Are Hot, and even that is boring as all get out.

They're all better than the old name, though.

edited 17th Sep '11 3:59:45 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

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Hmm, not sure I agree with that last bit. The old name at least suggested all the elements here (classical musician, hot), even if it was rather opaque. Of the current proposals, only Classical Musicians Are Hot does the same.

"Classical elegance" (and "classical beauty") are pre-existing terms that have nothing to do with music, and "enhanced" makes me think of plastic surgery. As for Pull At The Harp Strings—that would be a great name for another trope. One about the soundtracks of tear-jerkers, maybe. It doesn't suggest a person, let alone anything about hotness. Call it a name in search of a trope.

I think the problem is that this is a fairly narrow trope, so trying to get a short name that offers clarity and wit is difficult. Maybe something like Babes Bring Beethoven or Hotties Play Handel? Sex And Violins? (Another name looking for a trope, but it's closer than Pull At The Harp Strings.)

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With respect, I think the old name was terrible. It sounded like "classical musician in a bikini", and the page actually had to specify that it wasn't about wearing a G-string. What's the use of a witty pun if it has no connection to the trope?

Fair point.

edited 17th Sep '11 1:38:12 PM by DoktorvonEurotrash

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I'm not saying the old name was good. I'm saying it did a better job of suggesting the trope than most of these do. That isn't saying much. :)

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Are Hot is far too broad this trope though. Classical Music makes the person playing seem proper more elegant beauty and some times with a somber air to it like they feel the music and it's affecting them too (even though it's probably the music itself affecting your view.) not just "Hot".

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Then we need a new suggestion entirely, because "elegance" is not "female beauty", and doesn't even vaguely suggest the notion to me. Elegance makes me think of all sorts of things that aren't even human. A car, a building, a spaceship, a tea party.

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Elegant Classical Musician? That makes it clear that it's about a person. Not a building.

edited 17th Sep '11 1:51:25 PM by shimaspawn

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It doesn't add to their beauty, either. It adds to their attractiveness.

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That's much better! Not sure it's perfect, but far and away my favorite suggestion so far.

edited 17th Sep '11 1:52:46 PM by Xtifr

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x4 beauty can apply to men too.

Seems a little too plain but I guess it might work. At minimum as a redirect is a must.

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Bump for more votes.

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Elegant Classical Musician is looking like the probable winner at +8 (yeas:11 nays:3) 3.67 : 1. Everything else is in the red.

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And in the last two days, only two more votes, both yea for the leading contender, Elegant Classical Musician at +10 (yeas:13 nays:3) 4.33 : 1

I think we can probably call this.

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And three more for Elegant Classical Musician; it's now at 16-3.

Calling the crowner.

Crowner is Locked, Discussion has been moved.

• The page itself still needs to be moved,

• associated pages need to be moved

• and wicks need to be corrected.

edited 28th Sep '11 7:00:45 AM by Madrugada

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