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halfmillennium Since: Dec, 1969
#1: Jun 23rd 2011 at 12:55:35 AM

Rated W for Why doesn't have a laconic, but the basic principle seems to be that it's where an entry in a series has a higher age rating than is typical of that series. The line which adequately explains the problem is this: 'the series hasn't really changed at all. What's changed is how its content is seen.' In other words, this trope is where someone disagrees with the ratings board. It's not clarified by the explanation of how it can be justified directly before a customary pop at the 'moral guardians'.

Some of the entries (Looney Tunes, for example) don't even fit that description; they're not new entries, but old things being rereleased into a market which thinks they're more offensive than its grandparents did. Numerous entries have a qualifier explaining why it's not a proper example, or why it's justified.

What's the best option?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2: Jun 23rd 2011 at 9:05:08 AM

Perhaps what we need to make this more objective is just "A new instalment or a re-release has a higher rating than previous releases of the series."

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Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
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#3: Jun 23rd 2011 at 9:13:13 AM

"...with little or no noticeable change in their contents."

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#4: Jun 23rd 2011 at 9:15:48 AM

Well, the re-releases are clearly that bit. Perhaps we could make this just for the re-releases and then have a different objective trope for the next instalment having a different rating period.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Aquillion Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Nov 6th 2011 at 9:07:40 AM

Does this cover re-releases? The current description doesn't make it clear.

20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#7: Dec 10th 2011 at 6:31:46 PM

Bump. And I would be inclined to think rereleases are covered, especially since Star Wars is already on the page.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Dec 10th 2011 at 6:36:07 PM

And the name is just non-indicative. It states it's about ratings, but not about changes in ratings, and the lack of change in content.

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DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#9: Dec 11th 2011 at 2:28:51 AM

Not to mention the snowcloning of Rated M for Manly, when the two tropes are like chalk and cheese.

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DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#10: Dec 11th 2011 at 11:19:25 AM

Uncharacteristicly High Rating?

edited 11th Dec '11 11:19:32 AM by DrStarky

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#11: Dec 11th 2011 at 8:14:53 PM

The advantage of the current name is that it covers both where a work gets a higher rating as well as a lower rating. I don't see any real problem with the name, so let's just fix the definition to make sure relreases are covered and fix the misuse.

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Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
A pocketful of saudade.
#12: Dec 11th 2011 at 8:19:50 PM

Same Content, Different Rating?

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
GigaHand Since: Jan, 2010
#13: Dec 12th 2011 at 4:07:06 AM

[up]I agree with that name wholeheartedly, and would like people to discuss whether to use that name before suggesting a different one.

DrMcNinja Batman Since: May, 2011
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#14: Dec 12th 2011 at 5:10:45 AM

The name is non indicative. All that about "it covers lower ratings" doesn't mean anything, because the description says the trope is about shows getting higher ratings exclusively. I support a change, but if there's people who think it can be kept then we should get a crowner.

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jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
Also known as Katz
#15: Dec 12th 2011 at 9:49:21 AM

FWIW, the current name more makes me except a WTF trope—ie, "Why was this made?" rather than "Why was this given this rating?"

DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Dec 12th 2011 at 10:19:55 AM

[up]Seconded. That was my original belief.

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DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#17: Dec 12th 2011 at 10:36:59 AM

I like Same Content, Different Rating.

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#18: Dec 13th 2011 at 1:16:47 AM

[up]Same here.

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#19: Dec 18th 2011 at 6:03:29 AM

[up][up] I like it too, but that might make it seem like it could cover not just ESRB/MPAA ratings but reviewer ratings as well. (Ie. 3 out of 4 stars, etc...)

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#20: Dec 22nd 2011 at 11:15:29 AM

[up]How about tweaking it to Same Content Different Age Rating?

edited 22nd Dec '11 11:15:54 AM by DragonQuestZ

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Dec 22nd 2011 at 1:17:33 PM

[up]I like that!

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#23: Jan 13th 2012 at 5:46:46 PM

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.

Rated W for Why found in: 20 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 88 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

I personally think a rename makes sense because I find the trope name confusing and non-indicative, especially when compared to Rated M for Money or Rated M for Manly.

The Laconic for Rated W for Why now reads "A new installment or a re-release has a higher rating than previous releases of the series with little or no noticeable change in content" in order to combine both Shimaspawn's and Catalogue's suggestions.

edited 13th Jan '12 5:47:06 PM by LouieW

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Jan 13th 2012 at 6:24:45 PM

How is this a trope? Trivia, maybe. Not A Trope. I personally think it's just Complaining About Ratings You Don't Like and we should burn it.

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13th Jan '12 5:42:05 PM

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