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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#1: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:27:48 AM

It gets darker.

Things have gotten a little blacker over the reviews of Duke Nukem Forever. Despite 2K Games firing The Redner Group for their tweet threatening to punish reviewers who gave the game vitriolic reviews, Eurogamer is stating that they indeed have been 'blacklisted' for their scathing review of Forever by 2K Games.

Eurogamer's Tom Bramwell tweeted: "I feel sorry for @The Redner Group today. We are blacklisted by @2KGames and it seems to be standard practice."

So, did Jim Redner give 2K Games the opening they needed to scapegoat the blacklisting of reviewers who negatively reviewed Forever? Was Redner parroting on Twitter what was told to him by 2K Games, and mistakenly out of anger made it public? Or is Bramwell paranoid?

This entire fiasco is reminiscient of the Game Spot/Kane & Lynch controversy of a few years ago.

Jonah Falcon
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#2: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:37:48 AM

Not this sort of bullshit again.

Gotta love it when you don't know who's paying for the review.

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Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#3: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:39:57 AM

IMHO, things like this are only going to make 'official' reviews more and more obsolete as more people turn to honest opinions at Gamefaqs and Amazon.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#4: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:43:03 AM

[up]Yeah, but even then, you got people who post 1-star reviews 6 months before the game came out because there was an Art Shift or something stupid like that.

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LOEADITOOx .... from -???- Since: Feb, 2011
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#5: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:55:46 AM

Why people tend to believe that reviews are the "final judgment"?

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Nyarly Das kann doch nicht sein! from Saksa Since: Feb, 2012
Das kann doch nicht sein!
#6: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:55:48 AM

Bottom line: Fuck reviews. They can't be trusted, no matter who writes it.

People aren't as awful as the internet makes them out to be.
LOEADITOOx .... from -???- Since: Feb, 2011
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#7: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:58:05 AM

[up] I personally stopped caring about reviewers after the whole "Sonic Unleashed reviews" by IGN

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ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#8: Jun 16th 2011 at 8:59:21 AM

I say fuck review scores. If you actually listen to what the people have written down you'll get a better feeling for it beyond a little number arbitrarily slapped on the end.

edited 16th Jun '11 9:06:33 AM by ShirowShirow

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#9: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:05:43 AM

Croshaw: You want a number? How about four? As in fourk you!

edited 16th Jun '11 9:05:53 AM by JAF1970

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#10: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:07:13 AM

Yahtzee's reviews are the best reviews, cuz he either says they're good or bad.

Mostly bad, though.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#11: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:08:36 AM

However, 2K isn't upset by the review SCORES so much as they are the vitriolic nature. So the number is irrelevant in this case. I think they just don't like being compared to a "racist uncle".

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ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#12: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:10:04 AM

Well what did they expect releasing a game like that? Hugs and kisses all around?

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#13: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:12:33 AM

Not EVERYONE reviewed DNF like that.

Strategy Informer, for example, gave it a 7/10, and didn't act like 2K raped their childhood.

Sometimes, people get pissed off when you act like you're an evil person who shat on their Rice Krispies.

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LOEADITOOx .... from -???- Since: Feb, 2011
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#14: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:23:50 AM

Some people mostly expected....... modern shooter mechanincs, mostly of them are from COD

yeah right

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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
Micromastophile
#15: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:32:44 AM

But the problem listed seems to be (correctly) that it is too much like Co D (regenerating health, 2 weapons)

"Yeah, but even then, you got people who post 1-star reviews 6 months before the game came out because there was an Art Shift or something stupid like that. "

Game FA Qs only allows reviews after a game has been released, and full reviews can only be posted some time afterwards.

edited 16th Jun '11 9:33:43 AM by deuxhero

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#16: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:35:37 AM

Not Amazon.

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Aminatep Vulpes Zerda from Glorious Mother Russia Since: Oct, 2009
Vulpes Zerda
#17: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:41:20 AM

> reading reviews on Amazon

Nope.

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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
Micromastophile
#19: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:49:09 AM

[up]2K

dohohohoho

edited 16th Jun '11 9:49:36 AM by deuxhero

Psychopulse A berry clever person from Illinois Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
A berry clever person
#21: Jun 16th 2011 at 10:03:41 AM

Honestly, who cares about Duke Nukem anyway? It's had 14 years to be finished and for it to come out like this...honestly, I'm not even surprised at the poor reception. Not one bit.

Don't Press Your Luck too many times in life. You'll just get whammied.
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#22: Jun 16th 2011 at 10:04:18 AM

Well, they started over completely several times...

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stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#23: Jun 16th 2011 at 10:05:10 AM

I am surprised at all of the complaints of "Offended". As if people were surprised that Duke Nukem is offensive.

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#24: Jun 16th 2011 at 10:05:36 AM

I like how one of the most disappointing games of the year has close to a 50. The escapist ripped it to shit and still gave it two stars.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
ColorPrinter Since: Dec, 2011
#25: Jun 16th 2011 at 10:07:24 AM

That's what bugs the crap out of me. Duke Nukem? Offensive? WHY IS THAT A SURPRISE TO PEOPLE


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