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#26: Mar 5th 2012 at 8:50:11 PM

I think something more like Once A Girl Always A Girl is clearer as a redirect.

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#27: Mar 5th 2012 at 9:04:34 PM

My suggestions for searchable redirects:

First law: Genderbending Trends Female

Second Law: Genderbending Is EnjoyableEDIT: OTOH, Resigned To Their New Gender rolls better.

Third Law: Genderbending Transfers Stereotypes

Fourth Law: uhm... can't really come up with a potential redirect for it.

edited 5th Mar '12 9:10:10 PM by SilentReverence

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#28: Mar 14th 2012 at 11:43:56 AM

Not that it seems to matter much these days, but when I created the trope (harrumph) years ago, I named it Mandy's Law of Anime Gender Bending after a "law" that had been cited in the fandom already. Theoretically, trope-naming is supposed to respect pre-existing terminology such as this, but it's already been renamed once. Still, it would be nice if it had a name that still bore some resemblance to the original inspiration.

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#29: Mar 14th 2012 at 11:58:04 AM

Not every pre-existing term is a good name on its own standards. If the term never spread outside of one fandom, the counter-argument is Fan Myopia.

edited 14th Mar '12 11:58:36 AM by Stratadrake

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#30: Mar 14th 2012 at 11:59:10 AM

The problem is, "Mandy's Law of Anime Gender Bending" has virtually no use that we can find. Googling on it — the whole phrase, in quotes — only returns 126 results. filtering out hits that also mention our page drops it to 64. But ["First Law of Gender Bending" -tvtropes] returns 635 results.

The name was changed because it wasn't being used much outside this site.

That said, I'm not hearing a convincing reason to call this broken and rename it again. However redirects for the first three laws that indicate which is which, I think, would be a good idea.

edited 14th Mar '12 12:01:33 PM by Madrugada

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#31: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:04:52 PM

That's what I was afraid of when I first saw this thread — that "redirect farming" was a trojan horse for "rename the 3 tropes."

I do not think these 3 need renaming. I question if they even need redirects, since I can easily see these redirects being used as justification to rename the tropes later on (whereas I do not think there is any support for renaming the tropes as of right now).

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#32: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:16:01 PM

I am a bit afraid of a stealth renaming too, but I think things like Laws and Formulas usually require search engine friendly redirects at least because of their very nature — certain adjectives and keywords have to come out with very high relative priority from them, no matter those words are already heavily used in the article.

But yeah, these articles in no way need renaming.

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#33: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:58:05 PM

Search-engine-friendly redirects. That's exactly why I support making redirects but not renaming these.

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#34: Mar 14th 2012 at 5:31:57 PM

Created a bunch of the proposed redirects to the first law, since no one was getting around to it.

Ditto for the second. Could use more redirect ideas for the third.

edited 14th Mar '12 5:34:11 PM by Ghilz

KiTA Since: Jan, 2001
#35: Mar 14th 2012 at 8:44:43 PM

You didn't er, just go and make a bunch of random live redirects, did you?

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#36: Mar 14th 2012 at 8:52:45 PM

What do you mean by "random"?

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KiTA Since: Jan, 2001
#37: Mar 14th 2012 at 8:56:34 PM

I suppose random isn't a good term (considering they're all ones from the thread), but do we really need, say, 2 or 3 redirects to the same trope? I suppose it doesn't hurt.

I guess I was just mentally treating it like a rename, heh. Ignore the sleep deprived troper. Carry on!

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#38: Mar 14th 2012 at 8:58:00 PM

Redirects Are Free

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#39: Mar 14th 2012 at 10:29:13 PM

Redirects, especially searchable redirects, are free.

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#40: Apr 15th 2012 at 7:53:15 AM

Does anyone have a good idea for redirects for the Third Law of Gender-Bending? If no and the current one suffices, please lock this.

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