General Mario Thread

That's a really huge general assumption to make, Waxing Name.

Let's avoid those, please.

Maybe some would, maybe some won't. Which is the main reason why it should be made for America first if any. Yes, we know that it's not the most popular sport(worldwide), which would explain its lack of games, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be really fun to play either.

This too. I highly doubt everybody would stop playing it just because it's not a super popular sport. It's still a Mario game, which is more than enough for people. Albeit, I can see why it wouldn't be a large seller, respectively, due to this.

edited 24th Sep '12 3:38:50 PM by Hydronix

That seems incredibly closed minded of the world.

edited 24th Sep '12 3:22:54 PM by Moth13

But anyway, since I never really cared if it would sell, since it's a hypothetical game, what could be some characters' special moves? Not while kicking the ball or throwing it, but perhaps things like special tackles, ways to "dodge" things, etc.

Wario could have his Shoulder Charge, literally in this case. DK could pick up character for a while. Mario could trip someone with his hammer or push them away with F.L.U.D.D.

Heh. Tell that to Nintendo of Europe. Mario Super Sluggers wasn't released here because we apparently don't "care" about baseball enough. And it looked pretty fun...

edited 25th Sep '12 9:33:39 AM by WackyPancake

I don't much care if it ever gets made or not, simply put. Dun care about sales, or whatever.

I'm more interested in discussing how the game could work instead.

Obviously it'll never get made, so there's no reason to continue that line of discussion respectively. It'd just back and forth nonsense now.

edited 25th Sep '12 10:19:06 AM by Hydronix

Ah, but speculation is the forte of any good forum.

Let's speculate on what the game could have, though. It's already clear that it would never get made everywhere by now. I got no disagreements there.

And I just beat Star World in New Super Mario Bros 2. Well that was fun. Guess I should start collecting all the star coins, then figure out a good way to go for a million coins.

More on Paper Mario: Sticker Star's story. Make of it what you will.

Here's a good way to grind for coins. It's even better if you have two players.

edited 25th Sep '12 2:54:03 PM by MrYoshbert

I'll keep that technique in mind. As for Sticker Star, I wonder if Bowser is going to be the main antagonist this time. It certainly looks like he's trying.

It sounds like Paper Mario meets Super Mario Galaxy to me.

Only the beginning portion. I doubt it'll include him uplifting Peach's castle and taking it to space again.

I still can't believe people are so worked up about the Koopalings not being Bowser's children. Mario games have NEVER been about the plot, so why does it matter if they're his kids or not? It doesn't even add that much to the series. Heck, the Mario characters being actors (and that would be an explanation that would make the most sense about why the Mario universe is as it is.) wouldn't really detract that much from the series.

I'm pretty sure that by actors he meant that they could do anything, like a Universal-Adaptor Cast. As for the Koopalings, anyone that wants to think they're Bowser's kids can just think he adopted them. Problem solved. Except for Jr.'s mother, but that's an issue for another day.

edited 25th Sep '12 3:26:35 PM by Sterok

Eh, I don't really think it matters if they're actually an acting troupe, or if they're just a universal cast. That's what I was getting at. He never really specified.

Charles Martinet has something to say.

Even Miyamoto's explanations are very open-ended. The Mario series is one of the most open-ended franchises ever, so any explanation or continuity can make sense. I bet he'll change an explanation on the spot and it still would fit the series.

I just wonder why they decided not to have partners. You'd think just for balance issues they'd leave 'em in, since now they have to account for Mario being the only target for everything.

Note how Mario has more HP this time around.

edited 25th Sep '12 6:22:05 PM by Marioguy128

The Mario series does not taste like diabetes...

But if Bob-Ombs are playable, then we lose our explosive item.

Machamp can punch 1000 times in 2 seconds, Magcargo is hotter than the sun, Blaziken can clear thirty-story buildings in a single jump...

edited 25th Sep '12 10:56:01 PM by MagcargoMan

The Mario series is a perfect example of a particular approach to lightness. The situations the characters get in could be considered dark, but the storytelling is very lighthearted. Things are very rarely fully presented as grim or harrowing - events themselves could be arguably dark, but the story does not dwell on that and merely moves on to the next chapter of the adventure. The simplicity of the story progression and general the lack of seriousness tends to help this along.

Exotic locations are visited, minions are faced, villains are vanquished, the princess is saved, everyone celebrates and comes back to do it again the next time the call for adventure hits.

The tone of the series is what ultimately makes it lighthearted - while Kirby tends to be a Crapsaccharine World, presenting things as being light and airy throughout the games but then customarily using darker themes and nightmarish imagery the closer one gets to the climax (as well as leaving darker stuff unstated but present), Mario almost never presents events, even darker events, that way. So... I could agree that Mario is lighter than Kirby. Arguably.

Paper Mario is pretty much the only part of the series with an actual focus on darker events and slightly more serious characters, leading into those games' more complex stories. As a result, the Paper Mario games tend to be considered the darkest games in the franchise - not even the other RP Gs reach that level of storyelling (though the 64 one might, I honestly can't remember anything about that).

And none of those are weird. I'm talking about how they move, more or less. Like things without arms or special tails can't learn a punch, etc. That kind of realism, not pokedex entries that rarely make a difference whatsoever. It's just "lore".

Anyway, I know the Charging Chucks threw baseballs. But did they ever kick Footballs?

It's definitely light. I just don't believe it's super light and fluffy at all times. Which... is quite true anyway. It has its dark moments, respectively.

edited 25th Sep '12 11:14:12 PM by Hydronix

Yes

They did.

They also wore football helmets, iirc.

Same happened here is Australia. And I really wanted that game.

This is slighty off topic, but I missed out on Nicktoons MLB as well, even though it is based of The Bigs, which was released here.

Darn this country and its weird Baseball hate!

edited 25th Sep '12 11:10:31 PM by MagcargoMan

Holy crap, I didn't realize it until Mirror Mode, but the steering in this game is godawful! Not the drifting, the drifting's fine. I mean like moving your kart around. But even with good handling, you can't steer properly. If you need to adjust your kart position a tiny bit, like, you need to be facing a few degrees to the right so you won't fall off a cliff or something, the game won't let you do that. I don't remember the steering being so incredibly strict and tight in the earlier games.

This is especially jarring because of the Gyro controls. (Does anyone actually use them? I most certainly don't. While I do have a golden Wii Wheel in MKW, I don't here.) The gyro controls are just WAY too sensitive. You tend to oversteer while using them. Contrast with playing normally where steering is just way too tight.

I agree that the games are lighthearted, but they're not the very definition of lighthearted like Wacky said.

edited 25th Sep '12 11:13:39 PM by Marioguy128