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shiro_okami ...can still bite Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1: Jun 9th 2011 at 3:43:01 PM

I've spent some time organizing and folder-izing the Headscratchers:The Bible page. However, it's still humongous, and several of the long sections of entries refer to specific Christian beliefs (Fire and Brimstone Hell, the Trinity, God's omniscience and omnipotence), not to The Bible itself. Would it be possible to chuck some of these into a Headscratchers:Christianity?

edited 9th Jun '11 3:43:18 PM by shiro_okami

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#2: Jun 9th 2011 at 5:24:10 PM

It pretty much does portray God as omnipotent and omniscient, at atleast compared to lowly Earth creatures. His only arguable flaw was letting sin get into creation and not getting rid of it. That and choosing the most stubborn nation possible to live out his example, knowing they will fail and that wrestling match with Jacob...which was an angel in the Jewish canon, its the Christians who say God specifically took the form of an old man and was bested.(See Dogma)

Fire and Brimstone hell is just people taking Jesus's metaphor about burning bad crops too literally. He also compared hell to a worm that never dies but no one seems to remember that for some reason.

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shiro_okami ...can still bite Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3: Jun 9th 2011 at 6:05:49 PM

[up] Yes, it does portray him as having greater knowledge and power as compared to humans, but not omniscient or omnipotent like people think (and sin was due to human flaw, not God's). The Bible itself never actually says he's omniscient/omnipotent.

edited 9th Jun '11 6:27:13 PM by shiro_okami

SchizoTechnician Since: Nov, 2009
#4: Jun 9th 2011 at 6:08:37 PM

From what I've read, Sin is an interpretation of stuff, rather than mentioned outright and is part of the religion rather than the book; Genesis only mentioned birth being painful as a punishment and the need to work for food as consequences, not a generic soulrot infecting humanity as a whole or any detail.

edited 9th Jun '11 6:09:30 PM by SchizoTechnician

shiro_okami ...can still bite Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#5: Jun 9th 2011 at 6:21:06 PM

[up] Now sin is actually in The Bible:

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned." - Romans 5:12

edited 9th Jun '11 6:25:07 PM by shiro_okami

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#6: Jun 14th 2011 at 2:37:59 AM

I'm an atheist, and I like The Bible page. I like reading the Bible, too. Just wanted to share something with you guys.

edited 14th Jun '11 2:38:54 AM by joerc45

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savage Nice Hat from an underground bunker Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Jun 15th 2011 at 12:33:20 PM

We aren't seriously proposing cutting tropes off of the page for the book that is what people are TALKING about when they say 'Oldest Ones in the Book', are we? :/

I'll note that I do agree with cutting things like the Trinity off the page, as the concept is never explicitly mentioned in either the old or new testament... I'm just concerned that someone do it who knows what they're on about.

edited 15th Jun '11 12:36:57 PM by savage

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#8: Jun 15th 2011 at 1:16:38 PM

[up]The OP is talking about the Headscratchers page, not the main page for The Bible.

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shiro_okami ...can still bite Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10: Jun 15th 2011 at 3:37:15 PM

[up] Thank you, thank you, thank you! I could not get that link to work. [awesome] I kept trying to put a slash instead of a dot. tongue

edited 15th Jun '11 3:40:52 PM by shiro_okami

savage Nice Hat from an underground bunker Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jun 16th 2011 at 9:21:38 AM

Ah, alright. This kind of makes more sense now.

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#12: Oct 31st 2011 at 12:11:17 AM

It's October, are we done here?

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