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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#20026: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:01:03 PM

This is commonly confused, but that doesn't apply to copyright. It's trademarks that need to be constantly enforced or else you'll lose it. Copyright is very hard to lose, being selective in your enforcement against copyright infringement doesn't affect your hold over the copyright, like it does with trademarks.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#20027: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:32:05 PM

I never bothered to learn the difference, so I mainly just use them interchangeably in informal conversation. :P

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#20028: Sep 11th 2015 at 12:46:11 PM

Copyright is the right to copy or make more of something.

Trademark is the mark of your trade or a brand. In both senses of the word.

Rough definition of course, but they're not hard to keep separate.

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#20029: Sep 11th 2015 at 4:13:22 PM

Ah, I just haven't really heard of the PS 4 and Xbone having exclusives because of how easily they are overshadowed by GTA and Co D. Really, other than MGSV and Arkham Knight, I couldn't really think of any PS 4/Xbone game.

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Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#20030: Sep 11th 2015 at 4:43:39 PM

So the name "Super Mario Bros" would go under trademark, and the gameplay would go under copyright, do I have that right?

Ringsea He Who Got Gud from Fly-Over Country,USA Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#20031: Sep 11th 2015 at 5:00:02 PM

I thought it was more like Coke is the trademark and the recipe the copyright. I don't think gameplay can be cooyrighted, but I don't know for sure by any means.

edited 11th Sep '15 5:01:24 PM by Ringsea

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#20032: Sep 11th 2015 at 5:06:54 PM

From what I can tell, individual games are copyrighted, while the series, characters, concepts, and iconography are trademarked.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#20033: Sep 11th 2015 at 5:16:59 PM

Trademark is mainly for titles, logos, and phrases. It meant to distinguish your business or product from others. Sometimes characters are trademarked, especially if used in a lot of merchandise.

Copyright is your ownership of the work as a whole. It's literally your right to make more copies of the work, share the work publicly, or make derivative works like sequels.

Patents are for inventions and designs. In terms of games, hardware is patented. Software can also be patents, so aspects of gameplay can be as well.

edited 11th Sep '15 5:18:47 PM by KuroBaraHime

MJTrooper The Neutral One from California Since: Apr, 2011
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#20034: Sep 11th 2015 at 5:34:47 PM

When I see people claim they'll never play Nintendo games after stuff like this, it makes me wonder if they ever play anything. I mean, if you won't tolerate Nintendo for taking down YouTube videos, will you tolerate other companies shoehorning micro-transactions into their games? Will you tolerate companies with terrible security over customers' information? Will you tolerate companies treating their own employees terribly? Will you tolerate companies with overpriced DLC? Either they never play any games at all, or they're hypocrites because every company has done something unethical.

edited 12th Sep '15 8:41:18 AM by MJTrooper

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#20035: Sep 11th 2015 at 5:38:42 PM

I call it the Nintendo effect; anything Nintendo does that people don't like, Nintendo is greedy/is doomed/behind the times, etc. Anyone else? "Eh, they're working it out"

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#20036: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:09:59 PM

[up] Aka the Pachter approach. Which is why he needs to be stopped.

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#20037: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:14:10 PM

I haven't heard anything from the guy in ages. Don't care about him either way.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20038: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:27:05 PM

I say we paint ourselves in Yoshi stripes and burn all of their houses down.

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#20039: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:27:59 PM

[up]...What?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#20041: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:37:23 PM

That's not the only thing that confuses me.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20042: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:59:35 PM

[up][up] They are stripes that, upon closer examination, are actually a string of Yoshi pictures.

[up] It's either that or you found me a crowbar, three plumbers, and a box full of coconuts.

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ScottPilgrim2013 Why aren't you laughing? from Arkham Asylum Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#20043: Sep 11th 2015 at 7:01:08 PM

[up]Are you channeling Kenan from Kenan and Kel or something?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20044: Sep 11th 2015 at 7:04:25 PM

I don't know what that is but it sounds disappointing.

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Geist-Fox loafing about from north Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#20045: Sep 11th 2015 at 7:11:50 PM

I don't think he mentioned Yamcha.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#20046: Sep 12th 2015 at 1:15:11 AM

I wonder why everyone here seems to have no problem with most of what Nintendo does, yet most of the rest of the internet has huge issues, especially in regards to the recent speedrun takedowns.

I mean, I get that it is in their right to do so. But that doesn't make it okay, at least according to the rest of the internet

EDIT: Made my post hopefully less problematic. I hope.

edited 12th Sep '15 1:24:54 AM by LDragon2

Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#20047: Sep 12th 2015 at 2:22:42 AM

I say it's likely due to a time gap between those who have made their niche in video media market and Nintendo themselves entering in this social media format. ROM hacks and Speed Assist Tools seems to be in light of Super Mario Maker coming out, but one has to know the history of ROM hack videos and speed tool assists on Youtube to get a good idea of what's really going on and why. I myself do not know unfortunately, so don't ask me.

edited 12th Sep '15 2:23:06 AM by Shadao

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20048: Sep 12th 2015 at 5:11:31 AM

Them taking down ROM hacks is understandable because of Super Mario Maker. They want all focus on that rather than on people (probably illegally) hacking a ROM to make levels.

The Tool Assisted Speedruns are another matter entirely but they're also hosted on the main website for them so they're not actually lost.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#20049: Sep 12th 2015 at 6:44:04 AM

That article posted in the thread earlier only said they took down videos on Niconico Douga. Did they take down Youtube videos on mass as well? I could only find one article clearly talking about Youtube videos being taken down, for one particular user.

MJTrooper The Neutral One from California Since: Apr, 2011
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#20050: Sep 12th 2015 at 8:39:14 AM

4x[up]@LDragon2 I'm not saying what Nintendo is doing is okay, I'm saying some people are treating it like it's worse than some of the stuff the rest of the video game industry does. If you won't support Nintendo for doing this crummy thing, are you gonna support companies that do these crummy things? See my post at 20034 for details.

edited 12th Sep '15 8:42:11 AM by MJTrooper

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...

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