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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: May 30th 2011 at 5:19:38 AM

As found here.

(CNN) — Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal said Sunday that he wants oil prices to drop so that the United States and Europe don’t accelerate efforts to wean themselves off his country’s supply.

In an interview broadcast Sunday on “CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS,” the grandson of the founding king of modern Saudi Arabia said the oil price should be somewhere between $70 and $80 a barrel, rather than the current level of over $100 a barrel.

“We don’t want the West to go and find alternatives, because, clearly, the higher the price of oil goes, the more they have incentives to go and find alternatives,” said Talal, who is listed by Forbes as the 26th richest man in the world.

As others have said, doesn’t that make you want to buy an electric car?

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#2: May 30th 2011 at 5:23:08 AM

Well, duh.

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#3: May 30th 2011 at 5:32:51 AM

[up] I know, but usually they aren't so blunt about it.

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#4: May 30th 2011 at 7:37:45 AM

Now you know why the Patriot's Cabal is fostering this increase in oil prices. The conspiracy is looking out for us already!

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#5: May 30th 2011 at 8:24:39 AM

Thank goodness for the Illuminanti!

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#6: May 30th 2011 at 10:22:10 AM

Well, at least he's honest.

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#7: May 30th 2011 at 10:27:50 AM

Is this where we declare the conspiracy nuts were in the right?

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#8: May 30th 2011 at 10:28:13 AM

And he is displaying an elementry grasp of economics, not something common in that region.

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#9: May 30th 2011 at 11:09:41 AM

ahhh yes, but when the oil runs out and we are looking for someone to blame who do you think that is going to fall on oh house of Saud?

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#10: May 30th 2011 at 11:29:39 AM

I don't see the problem here. They are selling a product, and they know that their reserves are decreasing and that their clients are researching alternatives.

The fact that they want to keep the selling price within reasonable limits in order to give further incentives for the West to develop an alternative — as it will, eventually, and everyone knows that — is just basic economic common sense.

I am no fan of the government of Saudi Arabia; but in this case, I don't see what I would have done differently at his place.

edited 30th May '11 11:30:18 AM by Carciofus

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#11: May 30th 2011 at 11:33:05 AM

Its more the short sightedness to me. I mean whilst we MIGHT eventually develop alternative energy in large enough quantity to make it take over from oil this just seems to be saying that "we" need to stop "The west" doing so.

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#12: May 30th 2011 at 11:41:15 AM

Well, they want to gain the most money possible before this happens, and hence they want to keep the prices relatively low in order not to offer too much incentive to that. I can see their reasons for this — it worries me from an ecological perspective, to be honest, but I understand where they are coming from.

Perhaps, if I were in their place, I would attempt to encourage research into other applications of hydrocarbons — after all, energy is only one of the things that you can get out of them — but I don't really know enough about the issue to judge.

Now what I obviously disagree with is the Saudi princes keeping most of the profits for themselves, but that's a different matter...

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#13: May 30th 2011 at 12:25:18 PM

I understand that the Saudis realize their economy is basically propped up by one export and they don't want their main customers weaning themselves off it (really, their sentiment shouldn't be a shocker to anyone). But the point remains that they're also running out of said export, so the better long-term solution would be to find another niche — and fast.

edited 30th May '11 12:26:02 PM by Pykrete

blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#14: May 30th 2011 at 12:49:49 PM

See their investment in their "economic cities" which are basically places where they're trying to b uild new cities.

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#15: May 30th 2011 at 12:58:21 PM

Saudi Arabia has actually socked away a significant amount of the money made off of oil in a Soverign Wealth Fund. When the oil runs out they'll have a very large cash reserve to rely on until their economy can restructure itself, not that the commoners will notice.

The people in Saudi Arabia worried about peak oil are those with twelve wives and forty kids.

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#16: May 30th 2011 at 5:39:25 PM

I'm tempted to say "no shit" but I don't want to sound too crass.

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#17: May 30th 2011 at 5:43:28 PM

I like this. It makes alternative energy look less "dirty hippy" to raving buffoons in our country, and more patriotic.

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#18: May 30th 2011 at 6:21:08 PM

Least the Saudi prince is honest about it.

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#19: May 30th 2011 at 7:29:00 PM

Honestly, this doesn't even strike me as jaded. More a "If we screw you over too much, you'll just find someone else" kind of thing. I don't think that it has anything to do with alternative sources of energy persay, so much as just alternative places of energy.

HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#20: May 30th 2011 at 7:34:05 PM

It was silly to say it in public though.

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#21: May 30th 2011 at 8:05:08 PM

This still displeases me since my inner cynic believes that even if America pays $80 a barrel instead of $100 like we do now, I'll still be paying $5 per gallon at the pump.

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#22: May 31st 2011 at 4:26:37 AM

Oil is the lifeblood of the Saudi Kingdom. Without it, they are a country with nothing to offer the rest of the world economically.

I don't blame them, I'd feel the exact same way if I were them.

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#23: May 31st 2011 at 6:06:07 AM

It makes alternative energy look less "dirty hippy" to raving buffoons in our country, and more patriotic.
This. I'd like the meme "the House of Saud thanks you for your support" to become a popular comeback the next time some jackoff on Fox dismisses alternative energy out of hand.

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#24: May 31st 2011 at 7:51:18 AM

Plastic is made from oil, so there will always be a demand for it.

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#25: May 31st 2011 at 8:57:02 AM

This brings to mind what the heck the Saudi people (not the government) are going to do when the oil goes down. They need to build up their secondary and tertiary industries, and they need to do it soon.

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