First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
Kazuya: that was the very thing I was arguing against.
This was being done by the HKPF, but I'd like to highlight this.
The Mod with the Migraine
So according to some data, calling the police is a privilege, not a right
for most minorities, and every high-profile case of police racism (like, say, Starbucks) drives down the number of 911 calls. Full article text
Seems like we need a more stringent set of standards for handling 911 calls. I was under the impression that calling for a non emergency could get you in trouble.
Jupiterian Local
It can, and does if they catch the people. But it's pretty easy to spoof a phone number, and hard to ID people who do.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
But this was a restaurant.
A procrastination in of itself
Thing is two people trespassing is technically a legit issue.
Also most cases of 911 abuse aren’t prosecuted unless they’re a regular thing, the police don’t want to make people even less willing to call them.
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Well, they don't wanna make white people less willing to call them.
Shin Megami Tensei IV
I doubt that they are being actively malicious on it, and I am non-white so, no, its not my white privilege speaking.
Oh, bother.
Yeah, but you're not an American. This is specifically talking about an issue with US police.
The Alt-Right is exploding.
A couple of excerpts:
The problems have been mounting: lawsuits and arrests, fundraising difficulties, tepid recruitment, widespread infighting, fierce counterprotests, and banishment from social media platforms. Taken together, they’ve exhausted even some of the staunchest members.
One of the movement’s biggest groups, the Traditionalist Worker Party, dissolved in March. Andrew Anglin, founder of the Daily Stormer, the largest alt-right website, has gone into hiding, chased by a harassment lawsuit. And Richard Spencer, the alt-right’s most public figure, canceled a college speaking tour and was abandoned by his attorney last month.
“Things have become a lot harder, and we paid a price for what happened in Charlottesville. . . . The question is whether there is going to be a third act,” said Spencer, who coined the name of the movement, which rose to prominence during the 2016 presidential campaign; advocates a whites-only ethno-state; and has posted racist, anti-Semitic and misogynistic memes across the Internet.''
Dear God, YOU paid a price in Charlotte?
The alt-right “is on a downward spiral, but it doesn’t mean they’re going to disappear and that they’re not going to regroup,” said Marilyn Mayo, who studies hate groups for the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism. She said one large group called Identity Evropa — which targets college-age men, is less extreme in rhetoric and has turned away from the alt-right label — has grown recently.
“The overall level of racism in U.S. society hasn’t improved, it’s just that the organizing space for these types of networks” has largely been depleted, said Schiano, whose group rose out of Occupy Wall Street and documents social protests. “So the latent potential won’t go away unless society becomes less racist.”
Oh and this is just everything you need to know:
"The Traditionalist Worker Party, which at its height operated in at least eight states and had about 1,200 paying members, according to its leaders, also collapsed last month. It was perhaps the most institutionally organized of all the groups making up the alt-right. It had a clear hierarchy: Paying members reported to regional commanders, who in turn reported to the top leaders living in a trailer park in Paoli, Ind., where everything came apart last month.
The dynamic between co-founders Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach has always been unconventional. Heimbach is married to Parrott’s stepdaughter from a former marriage, and the two men lived in neighboring trailers, where they promoted traditional gender roles in addition to white-supremacist beliefs."
According to a police report obtained by the Southern Poverty Law Center, Heimbach began sleeping with Parrott’s wife. In early March, the two told Parrott and Heimbach’s wife that the three-month affair was over. But days later, according to the police report, a plan was concocted to catch them in the act. Parrott was outside, standing atop a box, watching Heimbach and Parrott’s wife through a window when the box broke. His cover presumably blown, Parrott went to confront Heimbach, who allegedly choked him, according to the police report.. Parrott lost consciousness, then fled to a Walmart, where he called police, who reported that Heimbach appeared to have violently grabbed his own wife’s face.
Heimbach was charged with felony domestic battery, the Traditionalist Worker Party disintegrated, and Parrott, speaking on the phone earlier this month, sounded different than the triumphant white supremacist who in the days after the Charlottesville rally promised that he and the alt-right were here to stay.
edited 21st Apr '18 8:10:27 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Shin Megami Tensei IV
I doubt that the American organizations are Always Chaotic Evil, except the Republicans and Right Wingers, of couse.
Oh Dear Alt Right, when you aren't even trying to hide your awfulness.
There's some genuinely hilarious quotes throughout. I don't know if the Washington Post got the dumbest fucking people on the planet to talk for their article or if that's just naturally present.
Some members have given up on the movement entirely. “I got to go back to my normal life,” Connor Perrin, who drove all night from Austin to Charlottesville to protest what he saw as the oppression of white men in the United States, said in an interview late last year. “I’m focusing on working and being normal. . . . My mom is like: ‘Stop being alt-right. You’re going to get yourself in trouble.’ ” He later added, “We lost.”
Others said they were told they weren’t extreme enough for the movement. “I was unofficially kicked out because I had sex with a half-Japanese girl, and they didn’t like that,” said Jack, 18, of Aurora, Ill., who spoke on the condition that his last name not be published. “With white nationalists, you’re never white enough.”
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Shin Megami Tensei IV
"Jack: I can't go into white supremacists because I had sex with a Half Japanese girl 
"
"World's Smallest Violin starts playing"
Jack: That's a glorious European ancient treasure...
👌
edited 21st Apr '18 8:29:17 PM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
Ahr river
I rarely wish things explode and catch fire but... I would be very happy if this is indeed a sign that theh alt right is exploding and catching fire.
Read my stories!
Whatever comes from the ashes of the alt-right is destined to suffer the same fate. Like the one guy said, you can never be "white" enough with these people, and an ideology centered entirely around both a concept that is false to begin with and the need to have an enemy to fight against is unsustainable by default.
edited 21st Apr '18 8:58:10 PM by PhysicalStamina
The KKK suffered basically the same fate.
There's a hundred different kinds of hate and they strongly dislike each other.
Mind you, recently, it had a Nebraska white woman try to join and ended up getting murdered by the Florida branch because she was appalled by the fact they turned out be degenerate meth heads.
edited 21st Apr '18 8:59:50 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ahr river
From the sounds of the article, the supremacists that are breaking off are probably going to disassociate themselves with the alt-right, and from there I can only assume they'll try and stay low key and more infiltratey until they have another perfect storm to seize upon.
Read my stories!
The problem with that theory is the fact that, yes, they're still racists but it ascribes to them a lot more intelligence than they're displaying.
I mean, seriously, "I quit because my mom told me to" is not a budding Illuminati.
Unless its Taco Bell Illuminati.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ahr river
I mean you don't need every single one to be that smart. You just need a few organizers at top to be that smart. And its' what they did before (lay low until something like trump came along) so doing it again isn't exactly rocket science.
Read my stories!
I'm not sure they were laying low so much as simply there.
But that's a Distinction Without a Difference.
The difference between lying in wait versus a duck call summoning a swarm.
edited 22nd Apr '18 2:49:25 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Consider the deep infuration they have for anything asian, they probably jealous he live their Otaku fantásy.
And the second confirm my ideas the Alt right Was More a teen fantasy than a proper ideology, a mix of "fuck you! Im better than you" and "nobody get me".
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
The alt-right is pretty stupid in general. An anti-racism activist managed to infiltrate them for months, to the point where he was a popular guest to give speeches and such (giving him a lot of access), and he said that everyone inherently trusted him due to his Scandinavian/Swedish looks/heritage. It got to the point where he was the one who vetted new members. All he had to do to get in was lie on the internet, none of them thought to research his claims or anything about him, otherwise he may have been detected.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43131290
Shin Megami Tensei IV
That's sadly more likely.
Albeit, The Right is something but a racist fantasy like....anytime?
Watch me destroying my country
To be fair, unless your country have being historically weak, there no nation that wasnt colonialist
Watch me destroying my country