Race- Privilege, Relations, Racism, etc.

Agreed.

It really is too bad this sort of thing stops people from thinking clearly and leads to circling the wagons being for almost anyone so long as they're "right thinking" on the one issue.

edited 14th Nov '14 7:02:43 PM by Know-age

Nigga? Please.

On the use of the N-word.

The # that shall not be named is a banned topic (why I'm not sure), so we really should drop any discussion related to it.

Got it.

.#pointergate continues with the TV station resorting to personal attacks on the young black man who was photographed with the mayor of Minneapolis. more here

edited 15th Nov '14 7:46:23 AM by SKJAM

Working link.

EDIT: Or not. How odd.

edited 15th Nov '14 8:09:17 AM by Achaemenid

Yours is working for me.

The Importance of Embracing Diverse Identities Among Black People

This is probably relevant in here too.

10 hours of walking in New York City as a woman in Hijab.

For those who can't watch it, the main difference is that when she didn't wear it, she was catcalled, followed, and received terrible pickup lines, while when she did wear it, she was basically ignored.

I don't know if anyone's posted this before, but the Angry Asian Man blog is as hilarious as it is depressing/informative.

Quick note: There's an awful lot of missing persons this month. I don't know why. Dan Ha's case is literally close to home since I live in the SF Bay Area. Metaphorically, it's really uncomfortable that they found his body in the Bay by the Golden Gate Bridge.

His family doesn't know of any mental health issues that would warrant suicide, and I find it disheartening that I immediately thought "he might have been drowned/dumped in the Bay by a racist who knows that the Bridge is a jumping point for depressed people."

edited 16th Nov '14 2:17:39 PM by Sharysa

Interesting. It depresses me that, if I go missing, more than likely the news won't care.

Yeah, there's at least a few people who I only know are missing because of the flyers their friends/family put up.

Many of them are minorities.

It's sad.

Yeah, I think stuff like this is evidence for white privilege. I know if I ever went missing the news would go crazy over it.

Prejudice and Discrimination - Crash Course Psychology Episode 39

edited 17th Nov '14 11:20:05 PM by Aprilla

Those crash course videos are amazing! I have to use some in my own class!

Does "white privilege" apply if it's one white person being racist to another white person from a different group or country^note  For example, an English person and a Scots person?

Yes, because historically some white groups have been more privileged than others. Example: Irishmen and Italians in the UK and USA, or Eastern European peoples today. It's difficult to argue that the experience of the Baltic states under Russia and then Stalin was qualitatively different to what Britain's subjects "enjoyed" during the Age of Imperialism, for instance.

That's... Sort of? I mean, at that point we are definitely narrowing the White Privilege concept to a more traditional version where it's nigh-exclusively Anglo-Saxon individuals. I mean, at that point it's less a race thing kind of? I mean it is a race thing but it's also clearly more a nationality thing sort of? But not because the Irish and the Scots and the English don't consider themselves to be the same or anything similar.

I am not qualified to talk about this, my knowledge is rudimentary at best.. I think Gabrael might know something though.

I mean from my perspective as a black dude born in '92 and raised internationally, they're all white to me. But from their perspective they're probably all different somehow.

I was ninja'd by a more qualified speaker.

edited 18th Nov '14 6:47:56 AM by MousaThe14

Actually, that would depend. Did the English discriminate against the Scots because they were supposedly a "darker" race? They certainly had that attitude against the Irish at one point. That's racist, regardless of the fact that "Irish" is not a separate race, and are considered just as "white" as the English are these days. If they simply discriminated against Scots for some other reason, that might be a different kind of privilege.

edited 18th Nov '14 6:25:23 AM by demarquis

It'd still be some sort of exclusivity based on identification...maybe someting more akin to some silly sort of nationalism or even jingoism but...I am not sure that would qualify as "racist", technically?

The only thing I could agree with there is that the person is an asshole :D

Well, the general term is "prejudice", regardless of what it's based on.

I wouldn't say "white privilege" if a white person is xenophobic to another white person. I guess you could call it "power privilege".

Yes, but not to the same extent as in, for instance, Ireland. There was also a class dynamic at work in Scotland; the wealthier landowners and growing urban populations in the Lowlands and Borders were loyal to the English Crown and they colluded with the campaigns of ethnic and economic cleansing carried out by the English after the failed Jacobite rebellion in 1745.

I suspect the long-term consequences have been largely if not entirely overcome, unlike, for instance, slavery.

I'd agree with that, actually - but then all privilege is "power privilege", the adjectives we attach are simply there to distinguish between situations.

edited 18th Nov '14 6:36:42 AM by Achaemenid

Incidentally, that is what makes this comic◊ so hilarious >>

yeah I think it was more like a societal difference...also...Scotland and England have been at each others throats for a loooooooooooong time. Like. Vitriolic Best Buds sometimes.

edited 18th Nov '14 6:36:45 AM by Aszur

This reminds of when I complained once about my Geography teacher who was talking on Slides about the process of Brazillian Colonization by the Portuguese... except he kept calling them "Europeans".

My friend was pretty mad at that. "Not all of Europe is the same" she said.

edited 18th Nov '14 6:38:33 AM by SaintDeltora