Race- Privilege, Relations, Racism, etc.

Far-right legal group, America First Legal, led by former Trump advisor Steven Miller, is complaining that the NFL's "Rooney Rule", where teams have to interview at least one minority during the coach hiring process, is racist.

Does potential xenophobia count? If not, I guess you could count this story as me sharing some of my own prejudice being shaken.

I recently had an exchange with a Lyft driver (let's call him Travis), and it has quite possibly shaken some of my more stubborn prejudice. Travis seemed like an otherwise decent fellow, but while driving me to my destination, he aired his rather unflattering perspective on the refugee population. Firstly, Travis was under the impression that refugees in general take advantage of the Canadian system and are unemployed. Secondly, Travis believed that resources allocated to refugees should instead be allocated domestically, to people who, in his opinion, contribute more to society and need it more. Admittedly, I only responded by non-confrontationally mentioning that I knew refugees who lived productive lives. Upon further consideration after the fact, while I realize that there are resources that should likely be allocated domestically, I firstly don't think it's fair to paint all refugees as a monolith, and I secondly am under the impression that some refugees have tried to find employment only for there to be legal red tape preventing them from being employed and forcing them to rely on the government until the matter is resolved. What caught me off guard about this interaction was that I would expect a perspective like this from a redneck or a WASP, not a Documented Indian Immigrant.

This reminds me of a Maz Jobrani bit where he talks about how a Middle Eastern (?) taxi driver he had called Trump a "very good politic" (sic), citing his policy on immigration. When Jobrani brought up that the driver was an immigrant, the driver replied, "Yeah, but I'm here."

It's basic "fuck you, got mine" philosophy.

Which is a very poor philosophy even on purely pragmatic grounds, as it assumes “got mine” means it can’t be taken away. But so many don’t think that far ahead.

"Surely the leopards will never eat my face!"

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/08/world/asia/miss-japan-karolina-shiino-ukraine.html

NY Times mention that the Miss Japan spot will be left vacant for up to one year after her affair was exposed.

Some people in Japan still continue to diss her even if she’s a naturalized Japanese.

Regarding the discussion above, I have talked to a lot of Migrants (some here for several decades or already in the 2nd, 3rd Generation) who pride themselves as having come to the country the right way, not as undocumented, illegal aliens.

They are also proud to have worked themselves to the bone to eventually get to where they are, and detest the idea of more recent Migrants being entitled to social security.

In other words, they're believers in the Misery Builds Character mindset.

Also pulling up the ladder after they've climbed it.

It's not so much pulling up the ladder from what I'm getting but rather forcing everyone to climb up the ladder to not let the ladder lose its meaning.

It's a facet of the "Just-World" fallacy, those migrants want to believe that their hardship is what earned them their positions in society because accepting that the migrants coming now have a legitimate claim to what they have also means coming to terms with the idea that their society was far less tolerant when they came and they were worked to the bone because of said intolerance and not as a Secret Test of Character.

Needless to say, this is not easy to accept in general because no one likes to think that they were forced to take the L, if anything, that would be anger inducing because then they could think of all the other lost possibilities they could have had had society been more tolerant back then.

Edited by raziel365 on Feb 15th 2024 at 7:28:35 AM

An emotional form of Sunk Cost Fallacy, you mean?

One of the people I spoke to literally said "If my parents back then had asked for entitlements, they would have been lynched!"

That's how far some of them have adopted this mindset. They don't see a statement like that as a testament of how intolerant society was back then, but as a badge of honour.

Edited by Forenperser on Feb 15th 2024 at 3:38:11 PM

I think a lot of said people don’t understand how the process has changed and been made more difficult compared to when they/their ancestors went through it.

I saw a piece of paper taped to a road sign that said "diversity consignment" and I couldn't tell if it was supporting diversity or condemning it.

Sounds like whoever it was was just trying to sound smart, because I have no idea what "diversity consignment" is supposed to mean either.

Could it also be a flyer for a shop? There is a consignment shop in a few places where the name is Diversity Consignment. For those who don't know what a consignment shop is, it's a second hand retail place where people can take their items to a merchant that will sell for them and the merchant takes a percentage of the sales price.

Oh, it is a shop, it's the same font and everything.

Well is my face red.

Seems like Trump's trying to get the African-American community to vote him since he's indicted on several charges in court.

I'm LO Ling at this since he never said sorry for calling on the death penalty in the Central Park Five case.

Edited by Ominae on Feb 28th 2024 at 8:35:39 AM

He said sorry for anything ?!

So what, I don't get the reasoning. Blacks are all criminals, thus they should vote for him, since he is one too?

It wouldn't be too surprising. Trump did once say something to the effect of "The Jews are greedy, I'm greedy too, so we'll get along just fine!"

Admittedly worded more carefully, something to the effect of "They're a Proud Merchant Race and I'm the ultimate businessman", but that was the TLDR of it.

The talking point under the most generous of interpretations is that Black people would identify with Trump because they talk about being unfairly maligned by the justice and here is the current Republican frontrunner saying he's unfairly maligned by law enforcement.

Of course, that's completely BS, because he is as guilty as sin and should be held accountable for his crimes and also calling it a 2-tier system, he was treated with absolute kids gloves that no one actually being unfairly maligned by the justice system would have the opportunity. The denseness of that point of view is illustrated by him saying that if they can do this to him, they can do it to anyone, but they've already done it to others, he just took it too far that not even his power can insulate him from his crimes.

Though at least that is more eloquent than Black people enjoy criminals so Trump being arrested gives him street cred, or Trump is winning the Black vote because he has his own brand of sneakers.

Edited by HeyMikey on Feb 28th 2024 at 11:47:36 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68440150

Looks like Trump's MAGA supporters are resorting to using fake images of Trump smiling with African Americans to get them to vote for him.

couldn't even get hired actors the cheapskate

That should be a punchline in something like Family Guy or The Simpsons, not something that somebody actually does IN REAL FUCKING LIFE without even an OUNCE of self-awareness!

Of course, had Trump actually had any self-awareness regarding anything in his entire life, we wouldn’t even be sitting here and discussing this at all.

Satire is dead. Reality is a farce.

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Mar 4th 2024 at 8:49:26 PM