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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#4301: Jul 1st 2015 at 4:54:11 PM

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And I'm gonna be honest, Gray Fox getting his name by killing a bunch of french people is probably my least favorite thing in Portable Ops.

Portuguese actually, since Portable Ops made him a German orphan from Mozambique.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4302: Jul 1st 2015 at 4:56:39 PM

"Frank Hunter".

As in, hunting the franks.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4303: Jul 1st 2015 at 4:59:13 PM

Nah, he just goes from house to house stealing sausages and hot dogs.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#4305: Jul 1st 2015 at 5:07:11 PM

Maybe I can play MGS 1 on my brother's PS 4...

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#4306: Jul 1st 2015 at 5:36:23 PM

Nope.

The PS 3/PSP/Vita library is separate from the PS 4 library. The only way you might be able to play it is if it's on Playstation Now.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#4309: Jul 2nd 2015 at 11:49:39 PM

Did anyone read this? It is a formal analysis of MGS4 as a game medium.

edited 2nd Jul '15 11:52:07 PM by GAP

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
LordHerobrine THIS IS MY FINAL FORM from the Aether, on vacation. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
THIS IS MY FINAL FORM
#4310: Jul 3rd 2015 at 12:52:16 AM

.....damn....... That was deep......

Hideo should read it.

I am the once and future king.
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#4311: Jul 3rd 2015 at 6:56:35 AM

[up][up][up]She threatened to ground him from revolver twirling.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#4312: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:10:46 AM

Can you imagine what Ocelot would have been like had the Sorrow and The Boss actually got the chance to raise him.

I also like how Ocelot is still Big Boss's only real friend through and through, even EVA missed him.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4313: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:24:57 AM

The fact that Ocelot is a "Rival living a lie" also makes me wonder whether he's a spy.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#4314: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:26:30 AM

Of course he's a spy. It's just a question of who he's working for.

Oh really when?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4315: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:33:53 AM

Well. Everyone.

...But, I mean.

It makes me think that he's loyal to Cipher and the Patriots, but he genuinely enjoys being with the Diamond Dogs.

Not unlike Paz in Peace Walker really.

...Also, I had an idea that maybe Skull Face is a hallucination, but one projected into Snake's mind by Psycho Mantis.

...And also that he might have died in Ground Zeroes. Because MSF's first order from Miller was probably "shoot the fucker in the cowboy hat".

"A Ghost without a past"

edited 3rd Jul '15 7:40:54 AM by unnoun

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#4316: Jul 4th 2015 at 3:36:05 AM

Ocelot seems to be on his own side with an agenda that only he himself cares about.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#4317: Jul 4th 2015 at 3:47:25 AM

Apparently going by info posted in the MGSV thread Ocelot was the one who hid BB on Cyprus so he is more loyal to BB(which we already knew from 4) than to Cipher since Zero would've loved to have BB after GZ.

edited 4th Jul '15 5:06:06 AM by LordofLore

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4318: Jul 4th 2015 at 4:46:36 AM

I'm most surprised that Konami actually has a community manager.

I sorta assumed their entire PR department was a bunch of monkeys flinging poo.

...On a related note to the spoilers, how exactly do you know what Zero would have wanted? This whole thing could be a shell game to kill Skull Face and get rid of XOF.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#4319: Jul 4th 2015 at 4:52:37 AM

Because Zero WANTED BB and MSF on his side in PW and by all accounts never stopped wanting BB going by 4. He wanted to go back to them being co-workers like they were in 3 with BB as the face of the new world they would create.

edited 4th Jul '15 5:44:25 AM by LordofLore

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4320: Jul 4th 2015 at 4:56:54 AM

If BB kills Skull Face and reforms FOXHOUND, that's what would happen.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#4321: Jul 4th 2015 at 5:11:19 AM

Yes, but he won't join Zero's side until his own is dead and buried. I'm fully expecting Diamond Dogs to all be killed by XOF towards the end of the game, leaving BB to need Zero's help in getting his complete revenge on them because he has no other choice. In the end, one day he will still create Outer Heaven in rebellion because he still doesn't trust Zero and Zero will send Snake to take him out even though it pains him to do so.

edited 4th Jul '15 5:16:23 AM by LordofLore

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4322: Jul 4th 2015 at 5:34:02 AM

I mean.

You have some good points, but.

I wouldn't underestimate how insane Cipher planning can be.

...In the recent trailer, Ocelot seems to be giving us a lot of intel about Skull Face. Like he's deliberately trying to point us in XOF's direction.

It seems like Zero liked MSF. That's why he wanted it. And why the Patriots gave Ocelot the Outer Heaven PMC Mother Company.

edited 4th Jul '15 5:36:55 AM by unnoun

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#4323: Jul 4th 2015 at 5:43:50 AM

Oh, I'm not saying Ocelot isn't working with Cipher(he probably is), I'm saying that he went behind Zero's back after GZ to protect BB. Multiple different parties attack the hospital after BB's location leaks after all the years he has been there since Ocelot hid him. I wouldn't be surprised if Cipher is one of them along with XOF, Ocelot's rescue team and what might be the USSR(if they arent't working with XOF).

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4324: Jul 4th 2015 at 6:21:18 AM

...I wonder how much money Ocelot makes.

Paying for the care of a comatose guy for 9 years can't be cheap.

I would imagine. It's not something I've had to deal with, though I know there are plenty of people that do.

I mean, what's health care like in Cyprus? I dunno that either.

Snake's not a citizen, so I'm not sure it matters as much as it might otherwise.

I mean. The description of Ocelot as "living a lie" is sort of tragic and sad. This might be the only time he's actually cared about someone he's spying on.

EDIT: So.

He also participated in several wars across Africa and the Middle East throughout the 1970s and '80s. While in the Spetsnaz GRU, he participated in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. It was during this time that he became feared amongst the mujahideen as a sadist, for which they named him "Shalashaska." At some point, he also ended up working in the Soviet Union's concentration camps as a special torture advisor, and was known to have utilized the Lubyanka prison underneath the KGB headquarters as his training for interrogating his victims.

...Huh.

I mean.

The Patriots have to at least think Ocelot is pretty loyal the entire time. They'd have no reason to reward him with the five biggest private armies in 2014 otherwise.

Side-note, does anyone know what was on Ocelot's name badge in MGS 4?

Raiden is such a cute puppy.

edited 4th Jul '15 9:10:52 AM by unnoun

MrMallard Since: Oct, 2010
#4325: Jul 4th 2015 at 9:11:26 AM

I have an idea for a fanfiction, but there's something big bothering me. It is Metal Gear related, but it's mostly a writing/ethics question about a Metal Gear fanfiction idea.

It's... not a SFW idea, and it gets very, VERY bad. I won't elaborate on the concept here, because it involves Skull Face (that should say enough), so if someone has a strong opinion on what should/shouldn't be published in the name of taste or obscenity, I could really use a listening ear. I want to write this, but quite frankly I think it could reach the wrong audience who miss the point, and that idea terrifies me. I either need suggestions about making it more tactful without losing its edge, or a sane voice telling me to drop the concept like a potato covered in angry fire ants.

If you have the time and the constitution to listen and maybe give me a hand, please PM me.

edited 4th Jul '15 9:35:48 AM by MrMallard


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