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Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
Transgender student policy at forefront of Decatur schools’ battle
The Decatur Board of Education pledged Tuesday to gather more public input about how it treats transgender students after some parents raised concerns about administrative guidelines that allow students to use bathrooms and locker rooms that match their gender identity, among other practices.
Board chair Annie Caiola said the board supports instructions issued by Superintendent David Dude in 2016 but wants to address privacy concerns.
“The board is committed to ensuring that all students feel safe, supported and valued,” she said, adding that it will review district policy to consider “potential changes” that further that goal.
Officials signaled they aren’t planning to roll back protections provided to transgender students but do want to have a public discussion.
Board member Lewis Jones said the board owes it to the community to listen and “see if there are some concerns that can be addressed through appropriate measures.”
But he expects the board will adopt a policy that is “largely supportive or entirely supportive of the current practices that have developed through the instructions to staff.”
Vernadette Broyles, a Norcross attorney who represents several parents who take issue with the superintendent’s instructions, said she views the directive as illegal. She said they violate the “constitutionally protected right to bodily privacy of the students” and threaten parents’ rights “to direct the training and the exposure of their children’s bodies to members of the opposite sex,” among other legal problems she’s raised with the rules.
She criticized the lack of public input before the superintendent issued the instructions to staff. After Tuesday’s meeting, she said it’s not clear what the board intends to do.
“...[T]hey’re saying that they’re supporting their superintendent, but at the same time out the other side of the mouth they’re saying that we’re going to dialogue on this policy,” she said.
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Dude, in a blog post written after the federal change, said the district would continue to adhere to its existing policy regarding transgender students.
He also reiterated instructions he gave to staff in 2016 that stated transgender students should be allowed to use the restroom and locker room that matches their gender identity and try out for the sports teams based on that gender. He also told employees to use the pronoun that students use.
Audrey Long, the mother of a transgender boy who is a high school junior, praised the superintendent for supporting transgender students.
“We need to make school, of all places, a place of safety where they can just be their true selves and focus on learning,” she said.
An online petition circulated by critics states that the district’s stance upends student privacy, equal opportunities in sports, and parental decision-making.
The petition currently has 129 supporters. About a third of those are from Decatur, according to Gena Major, one of the first parents to bring concerns to the board.
“The petition was created to give people a voice in collectively asking that the board be transparent and considerate of protecting the privacy and safety and dignity of all students,” she said Tuesday. “This is in no way a statement on anti-transgender students at all.”
The petition points to modesty and religious concerns when it comes to who uses which bathroom.
It also states that it is unfair to allow a transgender student who identifies as female to participate on girls’ sports teams because “males have very real biological differences which give them a competitive advantage over females.”
@that last bit about sports: Fun fact, thats BS. Trans women, due to the hormones and hormone blockers we take, produce less testosterone than cis women. We are at a disadvantage, not them. There's a trans MMA fighter who has had to point that out time and time again.
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B... B... But we have to protect those female atheletes!
Anyway, not all transwomen take hormone.
edited 13th Oct '17 8:30:46 PM by RAlexa21th
Where there's life, there's hope.
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Watching the World Series tonight, and there was a commercial for Levi's jeans that...well, I'll just quote from memory what flashed on screen.
"Man. Woman. Rich. Poor. Young. Old. Gay. Straight."
I don't think I've ever seen a commercial openly acknowledge that before, so...good.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Haven't seen any posts about this yet, but a bill was passed in California that legally recognizes nonbinary genders, which I think is cool as hell.
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
Cheers for CA. 26-12 votes barely made it.
edited 29th Oct '17 9:13:51 PM by RAlexa21th
Where there's life, there's hope.
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Yes, I've seen it many times here too. I don't think it's such a big deal when you've had openly gay characters in shows and movies for a long time. But I guess a comercial is something everyone watches and not a choice, so good I guess.
26-12 sounds like a relatively safe margin, or am I missing something?
edited 30th Oct '17 6:02:42 AM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Chaotic Greedy
Maybe it was something that needs a supermajority for some reason?
AP is reporting that Trump's Transgender military ban has been blocked. Story is too new to have a working link.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
I mean, 2-1 in favor could be low by California standards.
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
So Kevin Spacey just came out as gay. Makes sense given the sexual assault charges against him by another male actor. What's strange is the timing: trying to justify his actions to the public maybe?
edited 30th Oct '17 5:47:20 PM by Grafite
Life is unfair...
Spacey has been sorta out for many years, with the usual buzz being he went cruising for younger men, and had a rep for harassing people working on his movies. This, however...it feels like it is something that makes a lot of sense in retrospect, but almost no one put the pieces together until we got slapped in the face with an overt statement.
edited 30th Oct '17 5:50:07 PM by ViperMagnum357
Oh, bother.
This is probably one of the worst ways a person can come out of the closet. Saying they're gay in response to accusations of sexually assaulting a minor? As if the stupid All Gays Are Pedophiles stereotype needed a boost!
I have no sympathy whatsoever for Kevin Spacey.
Disgusted, but not surprised
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Yeah, coming out due to harassment charges and such doesn't exactly make you a role model for anything.
edited 30th Oct '17 6:34:50 PM by TotemicHero
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Thankfully from what I've seen, just about every single LGBT celebrity is siding with Anthony Rapp and telling Spacey that they don't want him associated with the LGBT community.
A procrastination in of itself
Yeah the LGBT community told the NAMBLA lot to fuck off long ago, Spacy can go join them if he hasn’t already (which he probably has).
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
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NAMBLA?
Where there's life, there's hope.
A procrastination in of itself
It’s a US based group that is in favour of pedophilia and is focused on Male on Male pedophilia.
It has for a long time tried to act like it’s just a sub set of the LGBT community and is as misunderstood and abused as other LGBT sub groups are.
edited 30th Oct '17 8:37:52 PM by Silasw
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Oh, bother.
And no, we're not joking. This is a real organization.
The acronym stands for North American Man / Boy Love Association.
edited 30th Oct '17 8:41:48 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
South Park had an episode parodying them. It was one of their early ones.
I am not sure I understand what Spacey was thinking he was doing here.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Trying to deflect attention from the accusation of child sexual abuse and turn the news cycle to focus on him coming out. Kinda backfired, tbh. He probably would have ended up with less attention overall had he left out the coming out portion of his statement.
"they"
Where there's life, there's hope.