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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17926: Aug 26th 2015 at 2:13:33 AM

Four GOP candidates sign anti-gay marriage pledge to support a Constitutional amendment and gut the SCOTUS.

The National Organization for Marriage said Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson signed the group's pledge "to take several specific actions as president to restore marriage to the law and protect people of faith from discrimination because of their support for traditional marriage." The influence of the National Organization for Marriage — once a powerful force in funding pushes for same-sex marriage bans on the state level — has been in decline following a large swing in public support in favor of same-sex nuptials. According to Gallup, in 1996 nearly seven in 10 Americans opposed same-sex marriage, but in May 2015, 60% of Americans said they supported such unions. And in June, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that states must recognize same-sex marriage.

"Electing a president in 2016 who is a true champion on marriage is a critical priority, something that is essential if we are to overturn the outrageous, illegitimate decision of the U.S. Supreme Court imposing same-sex 'marriage' on every state in the nation," Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage, said in a statement. In addition to support for the federal constitutional amendment, the group's pledge includes working to overturn the Supreme Court decision, nominating judges and appointing attorney generals who will apply "the original meaning of the Constitution," and reviewing pro-gay rights policies enacted by the Obama administration.

The pledge also asks potential presidents to direct the Justice Department to investigate and publicize cases of Americans who have been harassed and threatened due to their belief that marriage is between one man and one woman.

NOM invited every candidate to sign, and Brown said the organization will not support a candidate who does not sign the pledge. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — both courting evangelical voters — have spoken frequently about their support for traditional marriage, but declined to sign the pledge, Brown said in the release. Both men told the group they have a blanket policy against signing pledges, Brown added.

Surprisingly, no mention of Trump. Does that mean we can look forward to NOM not supporting any candidates this election, or will they swallow their pride? It's too much to hope for that they accept defeat and disband ...

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#17927: Aug 26th 2015 at 5:03:15 AM

NOM has all the dignity of a young child who's throwing a temper tantrum because his parents are ignoring his demand to have his annoying sibling given up for adoption.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17928: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:29:23 AM

Isn't NOM one of these groups which have been supporting homophobic campaigns in Africa? That would put them quite above the standard petulant child standard of bad behaviour.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#17929: Aug 26th 2015 at 7:25:50 AM

[up]They have been egging Uganda's governing powers on, yes. Not to mention reaching tentacles out elsewhere using Uganda as a base. :/

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#17930: Aug 26th 2015 at 7:28:27 AM

Not to mention reaching tentacles out elsewhere using Uganda as a base. :/

I have seen enough hentai to know where that is going.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#17931: Aug 26th 2015 at 7:30:13 AM

[up]Wrong set of tentacles: the propaganda ones don't come with easy porn settings. tongue

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#17932: Aug 26th 2015 at 7:39:16 AM

I disagree. Tentacles, political or literal, will always end up with someone getting fucked!

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#17933: Aug 26th 2015 at 10:11:03 AM

Why don't they change their name to IOM (international instead of national)? Or better yet, ISPCWVR (International Society for Prevention of Cruelty to our Warped Version of Reality).

For some reason, the tentacles make me think of SPECTRE. I wonder who gets to stroke the white cat and feed the others to sharks for failing them for the last time. Maybe they take turns.

edited 26th Aug '15 10:14:10 AM by Morgikit

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#17934: Aug 26th 2015 at 3:00:50 PM

Pentagon to lift ban on transgender troops in May

The Pentagon will end a ban on transgender troops on May 27, according to a draft memo obtained by USA Today.

Defense Secretary Ash Carter first announced in July that the Department intended to lift the ban and created a working group to study the implications over six months.

In the meantime, troops could serve as openly transgender, and high-level approval is needed to discharge troops for being transgender.

Repealing the ban would affect more than 12,000 troops.

All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48
Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#17935: Aug 26th 2015 at 4:49:31 PM

@Morg Because "IOM" and "ISPCWVR" just aren't as funny.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#17936: Aug 26th 2015 at 11:19:47 PM

[up]You mean they're actually a Genestealer cult, trying to plunge the world into war so their insect overlords can come down and nom us?

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#17938: Aug 27th 2015 at 2:24:37 AM

I, for one, welcome our new Tyranid overlords.

edited 27th Aug '15 2:25:21 AM by 3of4

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17939: Aug 27th 2015 at 3:40:48 AM

Repealing the ban would affect more than 12,000 troops.
That, specifically that high a number, I find suspicious. I mean, I know there are hundreds of thousands of people in the military, but that's saying you could fully staff three aircraft carriers with just transgender people -
A defense official told USA Today that Army and Air Force leaders know of about 20 transgender troops in both services.
Oh, now see, that makes more sense. I'd wager that number won't go up significantly if you include the Navy.

... thought this was the military thread for a minute, almost posted the wrong thing here as a follow-up.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#17940: Aug 27th 2015 at 4:22:41 AM

[up]I'd say start with one CVN and have it cruise before the Russian Coast a bit? Just for fun?

With the words "TRY TO TAKE MY DRIVERS LICENSE" painted on the deck.

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17941: Aug 27th 2015 at 7:39:52 AM

Another Kentucky county clerk vows to "die fighting" rather than issue another marriage license.

A Kentucky county clerk who has been outspoken in his opposition to marriage equality now says he'll "die" fighting to keep same-sex couples from tying the knot.

Casey County Clerk Casey Davis has reportedly refused to issue marriage licenses to both heterosexual and same-sex couples in protest of the Supreme Court's June 26 ruling on marriage equality. In an Aug. 24 interview on West Virginia’s The Tom Roten Morning Show, Davis vowed to continue to defy the Supreme Court even if it costs him his life, Right Wing Watch reports.

"It’s a war on Christianity," he told Roten. “There is a travesty taking place with that Supreme Court ruling [that] was completely unconstitutional, completely unconstitutional."

"Our law says ‘one man and one woman,’ and that is what I held my hand up and took an oath to and that is what I expected," he continued. "If it takes my life, I will die ... because I believe I owe that to the people that fought so I can have the freedom that I have, I owe that to them today, and you do, we all do."

He then added, "They fought and died so we could have this freedom, and I’m going to fight and die for my kids and your kids can keep it.”

Previously, Davis had asked Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear to call for a special session of the state legislature so it can pass a new law allowing couples to purchase marriage licenses online in a process similar to obtaining a hunting or fishing license.

In July, Davis told The Lexington Herald-Leader that he had, in fact, met with Beshear, but was told to do his job or resign.

Personally, I wish him luck in his stated goal. Or at least have someone take him to a history classroom and beat him with a textbook about why people have actually died for the Constitution.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Elfive Since: May, 2009
#17942: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:37:11 AM

Alternate title: Dumbass Doesn't Understand How Freedom Works.

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A procrastination in of itself
#17943: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:50:31 AM

I prefer "man refuses to do job, is told to do job or he will lose it"

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Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#17944: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:54:21 AM

I'd rather he not inconvenience himself on our behalf, but it's his life.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#17945: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:38:05 AM

The other county clerk had her stay of injunction denied (if you recall, she sued to allow her refusal to hand out marriage licenses, which was denied and an injunction issued to force her to comply, but she appealed and applied for a stay of the injunction). The appeal is pending but the stay was denied, with the court basically telling her "you know you're going to lose, now get back to work."

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#17946: Aug 27th 2015 at 9:48:37 AM

The educational system, and mel gibson movies, are really good at teaching U.S audiences that shouting "FREEDOM!" at things is just the adult way of throwing a temper tantrum.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#17947: Aug 27th 2015 at 10:25:52 AM

And the only antidote to hate speech is more speech.

Really, a lot of these guys are losing steam. Think of the "stand in the schoolhouse door". With one action, Gov. George Wallace made himself look silly to the world and lost all momentum for segregation and it's "state's rights" fig leaf.

Boycott businesses that refuse to serve LGBT customers. As a youth, I remember the "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" signs. I didn't know what that ment. Now I know they are a coded, polite way of saying "we're bigots, just not open about it." And, 30 years later, most of those signs are gone.

There will be businesses that balk and LGBT customers, there will be government employees who have a class 10 freakout when they have to do their job despite their belifes. And they will discover that society has left them behind. They'll lose their customer base, lose their cushy gov'ment jobs and have to back down.

Give them enough airtime and sunlight and the "traditional marriage" crowd will destory itself.

That Ashley Madison hack must have a lot of "God fearing Christians" sweating....

All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#17948: Aug 27th 2015 at 10:29:43 AM

And then they will grow resentment and turn to extreme measures. This is assuming they are not powerful and numerous enough to turn the tables.

Education is what is needed.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#17949: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:23:06 PM

Now I know they are a coded, polite way of saying "we're bigots, just not open about it."
Wait, what? I still see those signs around, and they're only ever used to kick out the super-asshole kind of customer. I don't deny that it is certainly abused somewhere, but it's not like they've vanished from businesses.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#17950: Aug 27th 2015 at 8:38:08 PM

[up][up][up] Apparently, the majority of the female profiles on Ashley Madison is fake.

Right now, I'm torn between laughing about that mess and wishing that I was that nefarious.

As for the anti-LGBT crowd in the USA..., they're like spoiled brats.

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