LGBTQ+ Rights and America

Not really. Somebody overturned it, and the governor and state supreme court chief justice have vowed to fight it til the cows come home.

I think it's on hold until the real Supreme Court makes their decision.

Over here, gay proprietors practically monopolize the wedding scene. The last three weddings I attended had gay people everywhere, and I think it's neat that my relatives (even when at times when they make fun of gays) would not hesitate and even prefer to have gays provide the wedding clothes, the make-up, even coordinate the entire wedding.

Similarly, with anything that involves artistry or requires PR (public relations), we prefer to let gays handle it.

There is still discrimination but the discrimination is similar to how us Chinese, Japanese and Koreans disaparage each other, and yet we would still buy each other's products.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.

Well if the business wasn't Limited-Liability, then it wasn't really a separate entity financially. But my understanding may be colored by my country's legal scene, it may be different in the States.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

You are correct: the owners of a proprietorship are jointly and separately liable for the debts of their company.

edited 30th Apr '15 5:31:30 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

@Irene Could you try and use paragraphs in your posts please? I'm having serious trouble reading your stuff when it's simply massive blocks of text.

The difference is that people asking for a different product can be turned away, but it has to actually be a different product and simply a product for different people. So Kosher meat and non-Kosher meat are different products, but flowers for strait people and flowers for gay people aren't because there's no actual difference in the product.

[[quoteblcok]]The last three weddings I attended had gay people everywhere[[/quoteblock]]

Out of curiosity, how one earth do you know that the people are gay?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

Camp Gay tends to be most visible gay around here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_culture_in_the_Philippines#Bakla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakla

Will just link as this is more appropriate for the other LGBT thread.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.

Camp Gay is the most visible sort in general, by its very nature.

People who don't eat kosher are not a protected class that has faced years of discrimination. They also weren't at one time cirminized in our country, and are unlikely to be fired from their jobs because they eat bacon.

There's a slight difference you see.

I dunno. I kind of have issues with any belief system that requires an animal suffering avoidable pain. Apparently, the animal can't be stunned and must bleed to death (while conscious) to be considered as kosher.

If I knew the meat was kosher - I won't eat it. Sides, my meat intake has been on the low-side for months.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.

I can respect that.

It's just it's not discrimitory.

I mean: If you open a place that sells and decorates cakes, you can't withhold that service to someone based on their sexual preferences (Provided that's a protected class under the law). It's illegal because you are discriminating in who you provide your service to.

If someone opens a kosher resteraunt where they only serve kosher food, and you go to the resteraunt and they won't serve you non-kosher food, then they aren't discriminating- they're offering to provide the service they provide, but you don't want it. It's like going to a cake shop and asking for a balloon animal, that's not what their business does, so they can refuse you because you are asking for a service they do not provide to anyone.

That's not the reason refusing to sell non-kosher isn't discrimination though. They don't sell it to anyone.

It's like going in and asking for a parrot. They're not obliged to give the customer whatever they want, just whatever they want off of an advertised list.

edited 30th Apr '15 10:38:16 AM by Elfive

Heh. I consider it as (painfully) discriminatory to animals.

I also do not expect to win in court. As I said, I want news "furor" cause most people do not know what makes kosher meat kosher exactly. Similar with halal.

Basically, I'd put animal welfare over a few religious beliefs, even if they are religious beliefs of a (persecuted) minority. When it comes to discrimination, animals suffer the most.

Also, that's enough from me about kosher. Thread has been derailed enough.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.

The Texas Senate is quickly pushing through a bill which would protect churches from lawsuits if they refuse to marriage someone based off their religious beliefs.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."

Has anyone ever sucessfully sued a church for refusing to hold a wedding ceremony?

edited 5th May '15 9:48:07 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Guys, this is the wrong thread for religious news.

My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.

In Denmark, yeah. Not many other places.

Louisiana's "religious freedom" bill died in committee, but Bobby Jindal issued an executive order to make it law.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."

Cause that's only tyranny when Obama does it.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

America!

The world will look up and shout "Save us", and I'll look down and whisper "Too bad, Waluigi Time" Vote Loki 2016

On the brighter side Robert Gates, President of the Boy Scouts of America asks for an end to the ban on gay adult troop leaders. Admittedly his motives spring from realpolitick but I'll take it.

edited 21st May '15 3:53:51 PM by tricksterson

Trump delenda est

As I understand it he's not specifically asking for the ban to be lifted so much as acknowledging it's going down one way or the other in the next year or two. That's how the BBC are spinning it.

Mike Huckabee: I wish I'd say I was transgender in high school so I could shower with the girls.

Fuck off. Die. Horribly. Cunt.

Huckabee... yeah. You know, I can't really say anything.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Is it any surprise that Fuckabee has a thing for high school girls?

Yes, that was immature. But in my defense, he set the maturity bar pretty damn low already. To sink to his level, I'd need to dig a hole 10 feet deep.