JAFAAC: Defrosting Ice Queen

Not indicative of he trope in the least bit. It only matters if you've read the manga it's from, and I doubt many people have. I say it's unpictureable.

edited 6th May '11 6:46:56 PM by TweedlyDee

We definitely need a lampshade, and in the quick skim of the examples I did, I didn't see anything like that.

Can you restate that a little more clearly or elaborate a little? I'm not sure what that has to do with the image.

Zapped the image. Not in the least bit illustrative.

Bingo. I already did that months ago and some fanboy put it back before you got it. Problem solved. Lock thread.

I meant that the best option for the pic is something that lampshades it, and I didn't see one in the examples that I saw.

Piss.

I liked it.

Um, shouldn't we find a new image first?

Anyway, I agree that it was bad. For the curious who didn't get there in time:

edited 6th May '11 8:28:48 PM by INUH

Not if a trope is deemed "unpictureable" which is why Jerk Sue doesn't have an image.

I think this might be picturable, but will take some thought.

Oh, did someone change the caption? The old caption helped it out better than that one would have.

The soure of the image is too obscure to be meaningful. It becomes even less so if it needs a caption to explain why or how it relates to the trope. Illustrating comes first, caption second. And the image was terrible at illustrating.

edited 7th May '11 8:18:16 AM by TweedlyDee

It was a great image. You didn't need to know anything about the anime to understand it. The left image is obviously someone who's cold hearted, while the right is obviously someone who's warm hearted, while still clearly being the same person. Put it back. -_-

edited 13th May '11 3:09:03 AM by GoldenAlex

the picture was fine and i didnt read the manga >.<

I think the problem people have with the image is that it's easy to just interpret it as two images of a character with different expressions rather than showing "This character used to be cold and emotionless, and now isn't".

Not the best argument, but there is some sense to it.

I think I might have something... Give me a day or so to gather the initiative to scan it.
EDIT: Nevermind, there are no clear enough post-defrosting images to avert JAFAAC.

edited 17th May '11 9:14:29 AM by ArtisticPlatypus

It should just be put back. More than enough people got it, and it didn't need to go.

For some reason, I'm thinking Tilda Swinton's White Witch, just as a really bad joke.

I'm for putting it back as well. I honestly haven't read the manga (nor watched the Anime) and thought it was illustrating the trope perfectly. Left part is the cold, haughty Ice Queen, right is her warmer, more emotional defrosted self, who has obviously learned to open up to someone (presumably the hero). I also don't see how Rosario+Vampire is obscure. It's a very popular manga both in Japan and the west.

The popularity of a work has all but nothing to do with its suitability as a page image. You're not supposed to have to know a work to be able to understand the picture.

And I don't think this picture is very good. She does indeed look lovestruck in the right panel, but she doesn't look particularly haughty in the left one, just normal.

Coming to it cold, as it were, I get "serious / neutral" on the left and "happy / relieved" on the right. I notice that the Ice Queen page itself we had to resort to a visual metaphor. And no, I'm not suggesting we copy that image and enclose it in a microwave.

edited 2nd Jul '11 4:08:32 AM by Camacan

I support this one ^^

That is hilarious.

That is a horrible picture for Ice Queen. Whenever tvtropes uses an ambiguous or metaphoric title, it's up to the rest of the article to explain whether it's to be taken literally (Playing with Fire) or traditionally/metaphorically (Cliffhanger). Using an image of a literal ice queen (which could very well be a trope) to demonstrate a trope about metaphorical ice queens is just begging for misuse.

Miranda Lawson from Mass Effect 2 anyone? She gets deforested after she gets together with Shep, and I could find a few pics.