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    Original OP 
(I saw Allan mention the lack of one so I thought I'd make one.)

Recent political stuff:

  • The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
  • Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
  • The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.

A link to the BBC politics page containing relevant information.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM

optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#24726: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:21:58 PM

[up][up] What. I didn't know they were bringing back The Day Today.

Direct all enquiries to Jamie B Good
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#24727: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:34:29 PM

[up]With a dash of Brass Eye, to boot.

edited 28th Jul '16 1:34:43 PM by Quag15

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#24728: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:59:25 PM

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#24729: Jul 28th 2016 at 2:46:54 PM

@singularityshot: I used to think hiraeth was a bit of a myth and roll my eyes whenever it was mentioned. However, I lived away from Wales for a while and I've got to say, I do now believe hiraeth is a 'thing' - it's not homesickness. I wasn't homesick once, and it's very hard to describe. It's like feeling you've somehow lost a part of yourself you didn't even know existed and desperately want back.

However, having experienced it, I'd have to say every culture is likely to have its own version of hiraeth whether or not that culture has a distinct word in its language for it. I doubt the Welsh have a monopoly on this.

It sure as hell won't stop me from moving to Scotland if the Brexit fallout becomes a thing, however. tongue

edited 28th Jul '16 2:50:14 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#24730: Jul 28th 2016 at 3:06:35 PM

The Portuguese and Brazilian have Saudade.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
EruditeEsotericist Since: May, 2015
#24731: Jul 28th 2016 at 3:19:03 PM

[up][up]You and all others are more than welcome. My earlier offer to show you the sights remains to all who wish to take it up. tongue

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#24732: Jul 28th 2016 at 3:51:13 PM

So it seems that the Mail is having a tantrum because the person the EU appointed to handle Brexit negotiations isn't going to be an absolute pushover.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#24733: Jul 28th 2016 at 4:10:33 PM

[up]smile

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#24734: Jul 28th 2016 at 5:11:55 PM

@Handle: So, you finally agree with me that saudade can't simply be translated to 'forlorness' (since it can be applied to someone who's homesick, someone who longs to be with his/her lover, and so forth, and that one can also feel a certain happiness while longing)?

(No, I haven't forgotten our discussion in some other thread a long time ago)


Anyway, Unions demand change after report into London's 'cattle-truck' trains .

edited 28th Jul '16 5:14:45 PM by Quag15

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#24735: Jul 28th 2016 at 5:16:01 PM

[up]I reserve judgment until I learn Portuguese and infer sense from context. This is merely a suggestion.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#24736: Jul 28th 2016 at 10:03:20 PM

[up][up]

But union leaders slammed the latest figures, saying they were evidence that two decades of rail privatisation had failed passengers. Manuel Cortes, leader of the TSSA rail union, said: “These figures mean that thousands of commuters into London have to travel in cattle truck-style conditions while also paying the highest fares in Europe just to do so. It is a scandal that this is still happening 20 years after the failure of rail privatisation. We need a publicly run railway with real focus on improving capacity and cutting fares.”

Personally, I don't think with a nationalised railway there would have been any difference whatsoever.

Mick Whelan, general secretary of the train drivers’ union Aslef, said: “It has long been our contention that privatisation has failed to deliver for rail passengers in Britain. We’re disappointed – but not surprised – by these figures.

“Disappointed for those passengers – especially those who are pregnant or disabled – who have to suffer like this, and for those tourists who come to this country expecting a first-class public transport system in a first-world economy.

“Sadly, the privatised train companies are failing to deliver and this government is letting them get away with it. If you’re standing on your train today, then you’ll be standing on your train in 10 years’ time because the government doesn’t care enough to do anything about it and the companies only care about making money, not delivering a service.”

The Government (specifically the DfT) sets the agenda, set how many trains are going to be ordered, their specifications, approves them etc. The Franchisees can't do much without DfT approval.

A spokesman for the Rail Delivery Group, representing train operators and Network Rail, insisted that the companies would improve services. He said: “We understand passengers’ frustration when they can’t get a seat and we as an industry are working hard together to tackle overcrowding.

“Over the past 20 years, record numbers of passengers have been attracted to the railway, which is why we are introducing thousands of new and modern carriages.”

That's true — there's a positive tidal wave of new stock on the way. The trouble is that the Victorian-era infrastructure is the problem — which is nothing to do with the TOCs (and is probably a result of around a century — at least since WW 2 — of underfunding). In places it is over-capacity.

edited 28th Jul '16 11:58:57 PM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#24737: Jul 29th 2016 at 4:30:48 AM

"Oh look, our trains are overcrowded! Let's say they're like the trains used to send the Jews to the camps!" That's a pretty poor choice of words. Cattle trucks, my ass.

The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#24738: Jul 29th 2016 at 5:00:45 AM

Sadly, tasteless hyperbole is pretty much standard procedure in politics these days.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#24740: Jul 29th 2016 at 5:25:09 AM

Y U no google, Daily Star.

The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground
Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chaotic Greedy
#24741: Jul 29th 2016 at 5:36:58 AM

Still, even as diameter, isn't five inches rather small for a ship gun? It sounds more appropriate for a tank gun...

edited 29th Jul '16 5:37:24 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#24742: Jul 29th 2016 at 6:20:39 AM

Nope.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#24743: Jul 29th 2016 at 8:41:53 AM

[up][up]Ship to ship cannon and gun fights lost big time to missiles, those guns are point defense, anti-air and limited shore bombardment.

edited 29th Jul '16 8:42:01 AM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#24744: Jul 29th 2016 at 2:03:18 PM

nm.

edited 17th Nov '17 7:32:55 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#24746: Jul 30th 2016 at 3:13:33 AM

So much for democracy.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#24747: Jul 30th 2016 at 3:18:19 AM

[up][up] Sounds a lot like the groundwork for a potential split within Labour.

[up] Like the SDP split from Labour back during the 1980s?

edited 30th Jul '16 3:19:07 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#24748: Jul 30th 2016 at 10:41:37 AM

It looks like they're trying to have a new party without losing an established party's grassroots and voting base.

I wonder if it's got anything to do with the Labour Party's biggest donor (Assem Allam) encouraging Labour MPs to form a new party by offering them financial incentives for doing so.

edited 17th Nov '17 7:35:26 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#24749: Jul 30th 2016 at 2:11:02 PM

Thing is the lot pushing the split are in safe Labour seats, not safe whatever-party-they-make seats, safe Labour seats, once they quit the Labour Party they will loose any chance of reelection, it's not like they have any personal voter base in their constancies.

They might however take enough votes away for UKIP to win the seats.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#24750: Jul 30th 2016 at 2:26:54 PM

.. how is this not just the PLP saving Corbyn the trouble of deselecting them? I mean, I'm pretty darn sure he's already looking for people to take a run at those seats..


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