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Recent political stuff:
- The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
- Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
- The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM
With a dash of Brass Eye, to boot.
edited 28th Jul '16 1:34:43 PM by Quag15
@singularityshot: I used to think hiraeth was a bit of a myth and roll my eyes whenever it was mentioned. However, I lived away from Wales for a while and I've got to say, I do now believe hiraeth is a 'thing' - it's not homesickness. I wasn't homesick once, and it's very hard to describe. It's like feeling you've somehow lost a part of yourself you didn't even know existed and desperately want back.
However, having experienced it, I'd have to say every culture is likely to have its own version of hiraeth whether or not that culture has a distinct word in its language for it. I doubt the Welsh have a monopoly on this.
It sure as hell won't stop me from moving to Scotland if the Brexit fallout becomes a thing, however.
edited 28th Jul '16 2:50:14 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.The Portuguese and Brazilian have Saudade.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.You and all others are more than welcome. My earlier offer to show you the sights remains to all who wish to take it up.
So it seems that the Mail is having a tantrum because the person the EU appointed to handle Brexit negotiations isn't going to be an absolute pushover.
"Yup. That tasted purple."Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
@Handle: So, you finally agree with me that saudade can't simply be translated to 'forlorness' (since it can be applied to someone who's homesick, someone who longs to be with his/her lover, and so forth, and that one can also feel a certain happiness while longing)?
(No, I haven't forgotten our discussion in some other thread a long time ago)
Anyway, Unions demand change after report into London's 'cattle-truck' trains .
edited 28th Jul '16 5:14:45 PM by Quag15
I reserve judgment until I learn Portuguese and infer sense from context. This is merely a suggestion.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Personally, I don't think with a nationalised railway there would have been any difference whatsoever.
“Disappointed for those passengers – especially those who are pregnant or disabled – who have to suffer like this, and for those tourists who come to this country expecting a first-class public transport system in a first-world economy.
“Sadly, the privatised train companies are failing to deliver and this government is letting them get away with it. If you’re standing on your train today, then you’ll be standing on your train in 10 years’ time because the government doesn’t care enough to do anything about it and the companies only care about making money, not delivering a service.”
The Government (specifically the DfT) sets the agenda, set how many trains are going to be ordered, their specifications, approves them etc. The Franchisees can't do much without DfT approval.
“Over the past 20 years, record numbers of passengers have been attracted to the railway, which is why we are introducing thousands of new and modern carriages.”
That's true — there's a positive tidal wave of new stock on the way. The trouble is that the Victorian-era infrastructure is the problem — which is nothing to do with the TOCs (and is probably a result of around a century — at least since WW 2 — of underfunding). In places it is over-capacity.
edited 28th Jul '16 11:58:57 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On"Oh look, our trains are overcrowded! Let's say they're like the trains used to send the Jews to the camps!" That's a pretty poor choice of words. Cattle trucks, my ass.
The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the groundSadly, tasteless hyperbole is pretty much standard procedure in politics these days.
"Yup. That tasted purple."Quality journalism from the Daily Star.
What's precedent ever done for us?Y U no google, Daily Star.
The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the groundStill, even as diameter, isn't five inches rather small for a ship gun? It sounds more appropriate for a tank gun...
edited 29th Jul '16 5:37:24 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."Nope.
"Yup. That tasted purple."Ship to ship cannon and gun fights lost big time to missiles, those guns are point defense, anti-air and limited shore bombardment.
edited 29th Jul '16 8:42:01 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesnm.
edited 17th Nov '17 7:32:55 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.So much for democracy.
"Yup. That tasted purple."Sounds a lot like the groundwork for a potential split within Labour.
Like the SDP split from Labour back during the 1980s?
edited 30th Jul '16 3:19:07 AM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling OnIt looks like they're trying to have a new party without losing an established party's grassroots and voting base.
I wonder if it's got anything to do with the Labour Party's biggest donor (Assem Allam) encouraging Labour MPs to form a new party by offering them financial incentives for doing so.
edited 17th Nov '17 7:35:26 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Thing is the lot pushing the split are in safe Labour seats, not safe whatever-party-they-make seats, safe Labour seats, once they quit the Labour Party they will loose any chance of reelection, it's not like they have any personal voter base in their constancies.
They might however take enough votes away for UKIP to win the seats.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran.. how is this not just the PLP saving Corbyn the trouble of deselecting them? I mean, I'm pretty darn sure he's already looking for people to take a run at those seats..
What. I didn't know they were bringing back The Day Today.
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