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Recent political stuff:
- The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
- Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
- The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM
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Why isn't Andrea Leadsom a "Right Honourable" like the rest?
The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground
"Right Honourable" is specifically for M Ps who sit on the Privy Council.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
So that's what this does
Leadsom may well get the job just for not having too much political baggage.
All I know is, I don't want, Boris, Theresa or George anywhere near the position, even as "trusty back-up". -_-
Most of the candidates scare me, mainly because they've had their hands elbow-deep in developing this crisis for years, and still seem blithely in denial about it. <_<
edited 30th Jun '16 1:38:08 PM by Euodiachloris
Field Marshal of Cracked
the frontrunners are May and Gove, so we will either get a police state with an NHS, or no police state without an NHS... I think I'll take a police state, that can be dismantled, while the NHS will be a lot harder to rebuild and get back from the companies
advancing the front into TV Tropes
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And anyway, Fry, can't a Police State work for the Left as well? 
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So that's what this does
Meanwhile the other three are anti-gay, anti-gay, and torn between anti-gay and anti-misery.
One week has now passed since the closing of the polls.
A procrastination in of itself
Gove vs May is pretty much Mao vs Stalin. Do we want a Stalinist police state or a Maoist education system that brainwashes children and drives them to mental destruction with stress and pressure.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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Maoist? Japanese, perhaps? Mind you, I suspect we're well on the way there, considering this trend started back really speeding up when Blair (yes, him) was in office...
edited 30th Jun '16 2:07:17 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On
So that's what this does
The Brexit Plan has finally been published.
A procrastination in of itself
Far from that kind, Gove wants a Chinese style education system as bad as Osborn has wanted a Chinese style wage system.
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...and neither want a copy of the PLA?
A procrastination in of itself
It's unlikely, nobody in the UK is for military expansion.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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I'd like it, though . But I'm being really cynical, we'll probably end up contracting our Defence out to the Chinese...
Regarding Corbyn's issues, I think the PLP are secretly having an Oh, Crap! moment in their smoke-filled back rooms right now - because they know that if they want to get rid of Corbyn, they have to take it to the voters. And the voters are almost certain to "not know where their best interests lie" and vote Corbyn despite what their masters tell them.
I honestly don't see a split happening from where I sit, at least not a split that lasts past the next election. The PLP don't have a voter base, and if Corbyn's smart, right after the leadership vote he'll look at every PLP member who's betrayed him and have his people start canvassing that constituency for Labour's next candidate in that constituency, and maybe drag out a couple of professors from academia to parachute into his safest-bet targets to fill out the Shadow Cabinet.
Is he allowed to take whats-her-name from the Greens and invite her to a spot in the Shadow Cabinet?
edited 30th Jun '16 2:28:42 PM by Ramidel
A procrastination in of itself
He could try and convince her to defect, but it's unlikely.
Corbyn is going to have a lot of issues going forward though, though the pressure may lighten up after Chillcot, or he may even announce that he's going after that and push Mc Donal or Burnham as his successor.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
United Earth
He could orchestrate a Green Labour fusion and take talented Green leaders to fill the many, many gaps left by disgusting Blairites?
By the way, did you know that blaireau means badger? So nasty.
Also, completely inappropriate for spin-obsessed New Labour.
Also I just realized that badgers eat snakes and why doesn't Hufflepuff kick Slytherin's ass?
edited 30th Jun '16 2:54:06 PM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
There's a total of one Green MP right now, so he could move one Green MP into his Cabinet.
He ain't going. His response to the idea of splitting the party has been "come at me bro."
edited 30th Jun '16 3:05:53 PM by Ramidel
Hate to burst your bubble, but ratels aren't badgers. They're kind of to badgers what chimps are to us: related cousins from a while back with both profound similarities, but many rather important differences.
Still, it's not like badgers here aren't hardcore. They just don't have mambas and Very Serious Bees to tangle with.
Rt Hon Alan Johnson MP (Founder of Labour In For Britain) has joined the criticism of Jeremy Corbyn's halfhearted referendum campaign.
We don't actually need to prefix an MP's 'title' when referring to them. The Honourables/Right Honourables are for the purpose of sessions within the Chambers only. They're not supposed to be used outside the Chambers. Privy Council members can be referred to as "Right Honourable" in written correspondence, but "Honourable" cannot be so used - it solely for use within the Chambers.
edited 30th Jun '16 5:17:54 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
We're going for the unofficial, and long-standing, function of the honorifics: sarcasm. Been in place since forever.
See "Honourable" East India Company, as an example. Those audible quotes got used a few times (and commented on) in parliamentary records of the day.
edited 30th Jun '16 7:27:22 PM by Euodiachloris
If this spokesman
“At a fraught meeting in the House of Commons with Heidi, one of the outcomes of the meeting was to set up an advisory group. At the meeting Heidi was open to the idea but then on afterwards she changed her mind and that was the end of it. This advisory group was never formally established and never met. If John was trying to set up a secret group then why would he invite the shadow health secretary to the meetings and discuss it with her?”
So the Conservative leadership contestants are: